If you want to blame Ireland for something, blame him for getting Philbin, Sherman and Coyle instead of a better hard nosed offensive coordinator, 3-4 defensive coordinator and Jeff Fisher/John Fox.
If you want to blame Ireland for something, blame him for getting Philbin, Sherman and Coyle instead of a better hard nosed offensive coordinator, 3-4 defensive coordinator and Jeff Fisher/John Fox.
If you blame coaching...that is still on Ireland....
Again....we have 5 years of drafting and personnel moves to evaluate the guy....his main job is to make the team more talented and after 5 year if the team in not more talented then there was a failure somewhere. Ireland in the only common denominator in all of this....two coaches, many QBs, many players, several different coordinators and just Ireland and the team has been mediocre his entire tenure.
Are you seriously trying to suggest the team is not MORE TALENTED today than it was 5 years ago?
Yes I am suggesting just that.....
That team went 11-5.....Where do you think the Phins end up?
Yes I am suggesting just that.....
Actually...
Chad Pennington was the starting QB and at this point in Tannehill's career...Yes Pennington was better
LB's - Yeah I'll take that group over Wheeler and Misi...Porter had something like 15 sacks that season.
OL - not even close
DB's debatable...Bell and hill were pretty good and the only CB I would take on the current team is Grimes.
RB's huge advantage for 2008....Ricky William and Ronnie Brown...
The only strengths of the current team are the WR and DL....everything else 2008.
pennington over tannehill???
when you build your team primarily thru free agency and bust out on so many high draft picks it's gonna be flawed...a high end qb hides a lot of it though...and they got that one right
but the 2nd and 3rd round draft picks while ireland has been here have been pretty much disasters...
Tannehill will be a much better player, but Pennington was very good that season and would put him over Ryan based on their abilities in that one season vs this season.
Since the 08 draft....these are the 2nd and 3rd round picks (also the picks you use to build a winning franchise)...
Merling SUCK...ASS GOT BIGGER EVERY WEEK
Henne SUCK
Langford SOLID 34 DE/miscast as a 43 DT
White SUCK
Smith SHUT DOWN MY ASS
Turner GARBAGE COULDN"T SEPARATE IF HIS LIFE DEPENDED ON IT
Misi FAILURE AT 34 OLB SAVED CAREER AS 43 2 DOWN STRONG
Jerry WEAK LINK OF THE INTERIOR OLINE
Thomas EHHH...
Vernon SOLID BUT UNDERSIZED...
Egnew #3 TIGHT END FOR LIFE
Martin EARLY RESULTS ARE NOT ENCOURAGING
Taylor YET TO BE SEEN
Davis RED SHIRT...PLAYS SOFT DOESNT TACKLE
and whatever that lineman's name was they drafted this past offseason THOMAS-LOOKED AWFUL REDSHIRT AND PRAY
That is an awful list of players...
Mike Wallace was the best WR available in FA. Do you remember who was the 3rd best receiver available? Yea it was Hartline. So what do you suggest we do for our WR problem?
All fair points! Considering we have just about everything new and are still having some of the same problems can only reasonably be attributed to J.Ireland. I'm just of the opinion that Ireland "rarely" overrides the OC/DC and other coaches on whom "they" think would be great for our system. I could be wrong and a GM does that all the time and pick "his" guy against the input of everyone else. But, I seriously doubt that's how it works.
Hell, when the Dolphins were on Hard Knocks it seemed pretty apparent to me that, yes while J.Ireland has final say, rarely was any decision made without serious Input from the other coaches.
So then we should sign the highest profile wide receiver available regardless of whether he fits stylistically with our quarterback? Great plan.