Coaches will limit Miami Dolphins rookie Dion Jordan for remainder of season
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This may be the worst draft-talent :: season-impact ratio I've ever seen.
Dion Jordan: Hardly plays more than 10 snaps a game. When he does hes great, but.....::crickets::
Jamar Taylor: ???
Dallas Thomas: ???
Will Davis: Hardly see him anymore. Carroll instead? Really?
Dion Sims: One TD catch -- then ::crickets:: What about any 2 TE sets? I see Egnew more than him now (which I guess is good considering they're finally using That guy now...)
Jelani Jenkins: Seen him like once or twice, cant even remember.
Mike Gillislee: Thomas gets way more reps. Not to mention Sherman abandons the run.
Caleb Sturgis: Plenty of FG's. This is our draft MVP right here folks! WOO!
Don Jones: Some good special teams play. A marginal upgrade so far.
YEAH DRAFT 2013 WOOOO!
Seriously though: Why can't our coaching staff actually USE the young talent we have? Drives me nuts.
Dion Jordan: Hardly plays more than 10 snaps a game. When he does hes great, but.....::crickets::
Jamar Taylor: ???
Dallas Thomas: ???
Will Davis: Hardly see him anymore. Carroll instead? Really?
Dion Sims: One TD catch -- then ::crickets:: What about any 2 TE sets? I see Egnew more than him now (which I guess is good considering they're finally using That guy now...)
Jelani Jenkins: Seen him like once or twice, cant even remember.
Mike Gillislee: Thomas gets way more reps. Not to mention Sherman abandons the run.
Caleb Sturgis: Plenty of FG's. This is our draft MVP right here folks! WOO!
Don Jones: Some good special teams play. A marginal upgrade so far.
YEAH DRAFT 2013 WOOOO!
Seriously though: Why can't our coaching staff actually USE the young talent we have? Drives me nuts.
Tunaphish429
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Well at least we know the kid can play...But not using him more is kinda dumb..Why not insert him here or there and take a risk...
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Tony's teams played hard and were physical mostly esp in 2008, 09 and early in 10. After that it was ugly.
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I see a consistent lack of solid effort with Philbin's football teams. Not good.
yeah, assuming those guys are talented, they why can't we use them? other teams can find gems in the mid to late rounds that can contribute in a meaningful way, and yet, a our 1st round pick hardly even sees the field. it's maddening. last year I was able to over look some inconsistantcies, but now however those are indicative of a pattern.
That's easily the best summary in this thread. If you think we can't be worse against the run, start Dion Jordan at right end and play him the entire game. He'll provide dozens of plays for the ESPN and NFL Network analysts to laugh at. They would be spotlighting one after the other, as Jordan is twisted and buckled and shoved into the secondary. Heath Evans would be crowing.
How often has a coach been so blunt? Do you actually believe there's no reason for it? The coaches saw the same thing I did at New England. They gave Jordan a chance in obvious run looks after Vernon was called for batting the ball. Jordan was perhaps more inept on the subsequent plays than any run defender in franchise history.
We drafted a skinny kid from Oregon, where they don't exactly prioritize bucking up to stop the run. That's a gap shooting program where they take short cuts on defense, no different than offense. It's gimmickry and get there quick as opposed to fundamental and strong. The football world wants to believe it's the wave of the future but when programs like Alabama or Stanford hold true to the old standards and actually prioritizes them instead of succumbing to perimeter finesse, then Oregon has a problem. Jordan in our uniform looks exactly like all the Oregon players did a couple of weeks ago at Stanford, when the Cardinal held the ball for move than 40 minutes and barely threw the ball. Every third and short for Stanford was a given, with the Ducks tumbling like tall bowling pins. It was glorious football, mindful of our early '70s teams. Jordan last year was pushed around by Stanford's young tackles in the double digit upset at Eugene.
There are still games and situations that unfold similarly in the NFL. We tried another skinny Oregon guy in Josh Kaddu and he hasn't panned out. If anything, Jordan looks even thinner now than preseason. Jordan has markedly more ability than Kaddu but his game is quite one dimensional, as DolfanISS pointed out. If you move him around can he dip left instead of right, and use leverage for a change? At this point he's like the Silky Sullivan of football, starting slow and using the same loop the field move every time.
Big plays are gold in this league. Jordan can provide those. With his height he can be a terror in the quarterback's face up the middle. They hate pressure and length up the middle. I've wondered why we don't feign Jordan in coverage and then loop him aggressively in midsection blitzes. At this point I'm stumped where he plays regularly. Outside in a 3-4 makes the most sense but you better have an absolute bull in front of him at end.
Seriously? Wow. GTFO out of here.
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The problem I have with Coyle's statement is that they knew what they were getting in Jordan when they drafted him.....now because he doesn't fit into whatever scheme our DC has incorporated he rides the pine and plays on ST. A REAL coaching staff finds situations and changes the scheme to maximize Jordan's or any other player's talents. If he has to play LB so be it. Otherwise the 3rd pick in the 2013 draft is a 4 year $20 million dollar blocking dummy. The only way to find out what he can do is to get him on the field....it might be wise to do so before they get canned.
JTC111
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There were a lot of people here proclaiming it was the best draft in decades. Teal-eyed dreamers.
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Maybe because they just aren't that talented. Ireland has drafted 21 guys in rounds 1-3. His 08 & 09 drafts, not 1 player remains on the team. Of the remaining 1-3rd rounders only slightly above average - Pouncey, Odrick. Tanny is still an unknown entity and Misi is serviceable. So out of 21 guys drafted high - only 2 or 3 remain that you would actually want.
Don't write Jordan off as a bust yet. He could still come good as a pass rusher. I think that he will need to build up his strength, he looks very light compared to the big men.
THIS is why I don't get Ireland supporters. He is a terrible evaluator of talent and has done nothing to prove he is a mediocre GM, let alone a good one.
