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Today, I'm posting players who I graded in the top-5 rounds. I'll also post a list of players who are absent from the board - due to missing physical tests, me needing more info, or me just needing to watch the player. I included each player's tier in parentheses. My hope is that this makes it easier to determine which group each player belongs to. For example, in the 3rd-5th RD group, it's the 3rd tier of WR's but the 4th tier of TE's and CB's (better positions for the 2017 Draft). The round designated for each player is an indication of where I would be happy to draft the player in any draft/year. The asterisk next to Garrett just indicates that he's a level better than everyone else. A strong group doesn't help or hurt a player's stock. Enjoy! Let me know if you have any questions, and let me know if you think anything is stupid :brewskis:

Just added overall rankings (1st and 2nd RD as of 4/2). See the number preceded by the asterisk.

Top-10

QB (1) Deshaun Watson Clemson *8
TE (1) OJ Howard Alabama *7
TE (1) David Njoku Miami *6
DE (1*) Myles Garrett *1
DE (2) Solomon Thomas Stanford *4
DE (2) Jordan Willis Kansas St *3
OLB/Edge (1) Tyus Bowser Houston *10
OLB /Edge(1) TJ Watt Wisconsin *5
FS (1) Malik Hooker Ohio St *2
CB (1) Marshon Lattimore Ohio St *9

1st Round

RB (1) Leonard Fournette LSU *16
RB (1) Christian McCaffrey Stanford *17
WR (1) Corey Davis Western Michigan *18
TE (2) Evan Engram Mississippi *19
OT (1) Cam Robinson Alabama *12
OG (1) Forrest Lamp Western Kentucky *11
DL (1) Jonathan Allen Alabama *24
DL (1) Chris Wormley Michigan *25
DE (3) Derek Barnett Tennessee *21
OLB/Edge (2) Derek Rivers Youngstown St *15
LB (1) Zach Cunningham Vanderbilt *20
LB (1) Haason Reddick Temple *14
S (1) Jabril Peppers Michigan *22
S (1) Jamal Adams LSU *23
S (1) Obi Melifonwu Connecticut *26
FS (2) Marcus Williams Utah *27
CB (2) Gareon Conley Ohio St *13
CB (2) Ahkello Witherspoon Colorado *28
CB (2) Marlon Humphrey Alabama *29
CB (2) Shaquill Griffin UCF *30
CB (2) Kevin King Washington *31
CB (2) Quincy Wilson Florida *32

2nd Round

QB (2) Deshone Kizer Notre Dame *41
QB (2) Patrick Mahomes Texas Tech *42
QB (2) Mitch Trubisky North Carolina *40
RB (2) D'Onta Foreman Texas *53
RB (2) Alvin Kamara Tennessee *54
WR (2) Zay Jones East Carolina *50
WR (2) Josh Reynolds Texas A&M *46
WR (2) John Ross Washington *48
WR (2) JuJu Smith-Schuster USC *49
WR (2) Taywan Taylor Western Kentucky *47
WR (2) Mike Williams Clemson *36
TE (3) Bucky Hodges Virginia Tech *51
OT (2) Dion Dawkins Temple *45
OG (2) Dan Feeney Indiana *44
OG (2) Dorian Johnson Pittsburgh *43
DL (2) Montravious Adams Auburn *35
DL (2) Tanoh Kpassagnon Villanova *61
DE (4) Daeshon Hall Texas A&M *33
DE (4) Trey Hendrickson Florida Atlantic *52
LB (2) Jarrad Davis Florida *34
LB (2) Reuben Foster Alabama *38
LB (2) Raekwon McMillan Ohio St *37
S (2) Nate Gerry Nebraska *62
S (2) Josh Jones NC St *39
S (2) Xavier Woods Louisiana Tech *64
FS (3) Kai Nacua BYU *60
CB (3) Rasul Douglas West Virginia *57
CB (3) Adoree’ Jackson USC *59
CB (3) Fabian Moreau UCLA *58
CB (3) Cordrea Tankersley Clemson *56
CB (3) Tre’Davious White LSU *55
CB (3) Chidobe Awuzie Colorado *63

3rd-5th Round

QB (3) Brad Kaaya Miami
QB (3) Nathan Peterman Pittsburgh
RB (3) Marlon Mack USF
RB (3) Kareem Hunt Toledo
RB (3) Aaron Jones UTEP
RB (3) Elijah McGuire Louisiana
RB (3) Jeremy McNichols Boise St
RB (3) Samaje Perine Oklahoma
RB (3) Joe Williams Utah
WR (3) Jehu Chesson Michigan
WR (3) Stacy Coley Miami
WR (3) Amara Darboh Michigan
WR (3) Isaiah Ford Virginia Tech
WR (3) Chris Godwin Penn St
WR (3) Carlos Henderson Louisiana Tech
WR (3) Cooper Kupp Eastern Washington
WR (3) Curtis Samuel Ohio St
WR (3) Ardarius Stewart Alabama
WR (3) Dede Westbrook Oklahoma
TE (4) Jake Butt Michigan
TE (4) Darrell Daniels Washington
TE (4) Gerald Everett South Alabama
TE (4) George Kittle Iowa
TE (4) Jordan Leggett Clemson
TE (4) Adam Shaheen Ashland
TE (4) Jonnu Smith Florida International
TE (4) Jeremy Sprinkle Arkansas
TE (4) Michael Roberts Toledo
OT (3) Garrett Bolles Utah
OT (3) Taylor Moton Western Michigan
OT (3) Connor McDermott UCLA
OT (3) Will Holden Vanderbilt
OT (3) Ryan Ramczyk Wisconsin
OT/OG (3/3) Adam Bisnowaty Pittsburgh
OG (3) Ben Braden Michigan
OG (3) Nico Siragusa San Diego St
C (1) Pat Elflein Ohio St
C (1) Ethan Pocic LSU
DE (5) Tarrell Basham Ohio
DE (5) Taco Charlton Michigan
DE (5) Carl Lawson Auburn
DE (5) Avery Moss Youngstown St
DE (5) Tim Williams Alabama
DE (5) Deatrich Wise Arkansas
DL (3) Larry Ogunjobi Charlotte
DL (3) Caleb Brantley Florida
DL (3) Davon Godchaux LsU
DL (3) Nazair Jones North Carolina
DL (3) Eddie Vanderdoes UCLA
DT (3) Charles Walker Oklahoma
DT (3) Vincent Taylor Oklahoma St
OLB/Edge (3) Takk McKinley UCLA
OLB/Edge (3) Carroll Phillips Illinois
OLB/Edge (3) Pita Taumoepenu Utah
OLB/Edge (3) Ryan Anderson Alabama
OLB/Edge (3) Vince Biegel Wisconsin
LB (3) Alex Anzalone Florida
LB (3) Blair Brown Ohio
LB (3) Ben Gedeon Michigan
LB (3) Javancy Jones Jackson St
LB (3) Elijah Lee Kansas St
LB (3) Duke Riley LSU
S (3) Justin Evans Texas A&M
S (3) Delano Hill Michigan
S (3) Eddie Jackson Alabama
S (3) Rayshawn Jenkins Miami
S (3) John Johnson Boston College
CB (4) Corn Elder Miami
CB (4) Chuck Clark Virginia Tech
CB (4) Sidney Jones Washington
CB (4) Damontae Kazee San Diego St
CB (4) Jourdan Lewis Michigan
CB (4) Jalen Myrick Minnesota
CB (4) Cam Sutton Tennessee
CB (4) Howard Wilson Houston

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More info needed group:

QB Jerod Evans Virginia Tech
RB Christopher Carson Oklahoma St
RB Joe Mixon Oklahoma
WR KD Cannon Baylor
WR Robert Davis Georgia St
WR Chad Hansen Cal
WR Speedy Noil Texas A&M
WR Fred Ross Mississippi St
WR Michael Rector Stanford
TE Pharoah Brown Oregon
OT Jerry Ugokwe William & Mary
OG Aviante Collins TCU
OG Jessamen Dunker Tennessee St
C Tyler Orlosky West Virginia
DE Demarcus Walker Florida St
DT Carlos Watkins Clemson
OLB/Edge Samson Ebukam Eastern Washington
LB Brooks Ellis Arkansas
LB Jordan Evans Oklahoma
LB Cody Heiman Washburn
LB Marquel Lee Wake Forest
LB Darnell Leslie Monmouth
LB Steven Taylor Houston
S Marcus Maye Florida
S Orion Stewart Baylor
CB Brian Allen Utah
CB Treston Decoud Oregon St
CB/S Desmond King Iowa
CB Brendan Langley Lamar

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J-off, great stuff. Curious to know where you would have Butt and Jones if they were healthy?
Thank you! 2nd RD for each. I like them both a lot, but physical limitations keep them out of 1st RD consideration, and the injuries knock them down another peg.
 

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Well done.

How do you feel about Pharaoh Brown and have you ever studied his game or watched him play?
 

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Well done.

How do you feel about Pharaoh Brown and have you ever studied his game or watched him play?
Thanks Slimm! I haven't. Beautiful frame, probably the most impressive frame of the entire TE group. I should have listed him in my players I need more info on - watching him, in this case. Good vert, too, for someone that size. Where are you projecting him?
 

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Watt, Bowser and Willis top 10? You think highly of those guys i haven't even seen mocked in the first. I'm curious why you like Willis especially, hes very raw right?
 

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Watt, Bowser and Willis top 10? You think highly of those guys i haven't even seen mocked in the first. I'm curious why you like Willis especially, hes very raw right?
I think Willis' rawness is overstated. He posted good career production, and he had an outstanding Senior season. To your point, though, they're rated highly for the same reason I rated Vic Beasley, Bud Dupree, Frank Clark, and Danielle Hunter higher than most. They're elite athletes at positions where that translates more than any other. It's also the most premium position apart from QB. Willis had the best overall workout of that group, but Watt and Bowser bested him in the 3-cone. Long story short, premium position + excellent indicator of success = premium prospect.

Bowser averaged a sack per game as a Senior, and Watt is just scratching the surface of what he'll be.

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don't see dalvin cook or am I blind
His abuse of women and animals (dogs) caused me to drop him off my board. I could understand losing your temper, but I think he's probably just a bad person. If I get new info that causes me to change my mind, I'll make the necessary adjustments.
 

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I love Witherspoon and see that you think highly of him as well. Wonder if he could make it to Miami's spot in R2? Good person, smart (pre-med I think), and long-limbed with production. A little bit of Richard Sherman in his game.

Interesting take on Willis. I am very surprised, after he owned the combine, that he isn't being mocked in the 1st round. I see him as a real target for the Dolphins at #22. Wouldn't at all surprise me.

Nice work!
 

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Another question...what pushed Foster to a 2nd round rating for you?
Foster is right on the edge for me. Runs well, hits well, seems like a team player. He weighed in at 229, didn't test, and he's a tick late to react at times. I think the last point would be a bit more obvious if he didn't play on such a great D. That's not to say that he's a bad player. But, these factors increase the risk, so I feel better about drafting him in the 2nd. If he tested and put up a Combine in the range of Cunningham (good, not great), I'd group him with Cunningham and Reddick in the 1st. Speaking of risk, the draft is really just about risk/reward assessment. The further people get from that idea, the more nonsensical their rankings will be (imo). I think Foster will go in the 1st, and I won't slam the pick when it happens. Top-10 seems like crazy talk to me, though.
 

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I love Witherspoon and see that you think highly of him as well. Wonder if he could make it to Miami's spot in R2? Good person, smart (pre-med I think), and long-limbed with production. A little bit of Richard Sherman in his game.

Interesting take on Willis. I am very surprised, after he owned the combine, that he isn't being mocked in the 1st round. I see him as a real target for the Dolphins at #22. Wouldn't at all surprise me.

Nice work!
Thanks SF! It's a deep group, so I could see him being there. Good chance one of the 1st RD CB's is there anyway. I think he's currently rated as a 2nd/3rd RD pick by most. 33" arms, good speed, and high-end burst, he'd be an ideal fit in Miami. It's hard to emphasize enough just how stacked this group of CB's is.

With regard to Willis, I keep seeing people say that his tape doesn't match his Combine performance. I don't agree, and people said the same about Frank Clark and Bud Dupree. In general, if someone tests like a freak athlete, he's a freak athlete. He's my top want for Miami at 22.
 

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Thanks SF! It's a deep group, so I could see him being there. Good chance one of the 1st RD CB's is there anyway. I think he's currently rated as a 2nd/3rd RD pick by most. 33" arms, good speed, and high-end burst, he'd be an ideal fit in Miami. It's hard to emphasize enough just how stacked this group of CB's is.

With regard to Willis, I keep seeing people say that his tape doesn't match his Combine performance. I don't agree, and people said the same about Frank Clark and Bud Dupree. In general, if someone tests like a freak athlete, he's a freak athlete. He's my top want for Miami at 22.
Doesn't that freak athlete tag also apply to Reddick? That's why I want Reddick the most. But i do see what you are getting at in regards to Willis. An elite sack producer
 

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Doesn't that freak athlete tag also apply to Reddick? That's why I want Reddick the most. But i do see what you are getting at in regards to Willis. An elite sack producer
Yep! Terrific athlete, and he's probably one of Miami's targets at 22. He's not grouped with Willis, Watt, and Bowser, because his size will allow him less opportunities to rush the QB, missing the 3-cone mark, and he'll need to learn how to play LB. I'd be happy with him at 22. He should pay dividends early in the passing game - with high upside in coverage (came to Temple as a CB).
 
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