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Kyle Pitts is the key

illscriptures said:
Can he block tho?
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No Way Smh GIF by Desus & Mero
 
AyyJayy said:
A highly touted TE’s ability to produce in the NFL in my opinion is more related to scheme, QB chemistry/preference/abilities and having the ability to block. I mean look at Brady and the pats. With the change of offensive scheming to establish RPO/bootleg, having underneath safety valves such as a pass catching RB and an athletic TE is a must.

I think you are really underselling where Pitts would fit in scheme wise and the level of talent he has. I don’t really think you could compare him to anyone but Darren Waller. When you look at the other TE’s that have produced they all are pretty lumbering compared to Waller and Pitts. It’s not even fair calling him a pass catching TE. We need receivers, this guy runs as crisp of routes as we have ever seen from a TE , has hands and body control that rival current established #1 wide receivers currently in the league. He is a defacto wide receiver with TE blocking abilities that would create so many mismatches it would be a nightmare for any DC.

If Kyle Pitts is used as a key to an offense in the NFL , he will easily be the best TE in the league barring significant injury and would be a top 10 receiving threat . Quote me on this
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When will he "easily" be the best TE? Better than Kelce, Waller, Kettle etc? Tomorrow? I get the enthusiam but statements like this are so disrespectful to the current great players IN THE NFL and the hard transition from college to NFL. Pitts hasn't produced a single down at the NFL level adn there's no guarantee he will be anything close to the "best" etc.

Keep your TE that you moved up to get by giving away picks and i'll gladly use those picks to draft a Harris/Waddle combo.

Not only have i improved my running game and pass recieving game. But i've also improved my special teams unit.
 
AyyJayy said:
A highly touted TE’s ability to produce in the NFL in my opinion is more related to scheme, QB chemistry/preference/abilities and having the ability to block. I mean look at Brady and the pats. With the change of offensive scheming to establish RPO/bootleg, having underneath safety valves such as a pass catching RB and an athletic TE is a must.

I think you are really underselling where Pitts would fit in scheme wise and the level of talent he has. I don’t really think you could compare him to anyone but Darren Waller. When you look at the other TE’s that have produced they all are pretty lumbering compared to Waller and Pitts. It’s not even fair calling him a pass catching TE. We need receivers, this guy runs as crisp of routes as we have ever seen from a TE , has hands and body control that rival current established #1 wide receivers currently in the league. He is a defacto wide receiver with TE blocking abilities that would create so many mismatches it would be a nightmare for any DC.

If Kyle Pitts is used as a key to an offense in the NFL , he will easily be the best TE in the league barring significant injury and would be a top 10 receiving threat . Quote me on this
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If you're looking for what's best for Tua then you want to draft a couple of WR's and a RB instead of using two picks on a TE. Look back at how he did at Bama and TE was low on the list.
 
ANUFan said:
My counter is how often do guys like Kelce line up to block? I don't know the numbers but the eye test tells me he's asked to catch alot more than block. The same can't be said for a talent like Waller or Kelce as they're on heavy run based teams.
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My counter to that is anytime you are using a HOF type player as a comparison to a dude that hasn't taken one NFL snap, the argument is already flawed.
 
Mach2 said:
My counter to that is anytime you are using a HOF type player as a comparison to a dude that hasn't taken one NFL snap, the argument is already flawed.
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they all played in college at some point
 
hoops said:
they all played in college at some point
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That's true, but misses my point.

To say Pitts can achieve what Kelce has, or to use how Kelce is employed as an example of what Pitts can do is pie in the sky.

Let's start with being a top half NFL starter, before we project a kid as one of the best of the last decade.
 
ANUFan said:
I honestly would cry, very loudly, if we went defense with #18. What defensive player is going to have more impact on defense and improve that group compared to an offensive player?

We literally can go all offense in this draft and drastically improve this team on paper.

The playoff has shown me outside of maybe the Bills and Tampa there's no team that was in the playoffs that was significantly better than we currently are as a total defense. Ofcourse there's room for improvement.

But the glearing weakness continues to be offense.
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I dont think the Bills defense is better than ours let alone significantly. Other than that I agree with all of this.
 
Mach2 said:
That's true, but misses my point.

To say Pitts can achieve what Kelce has, or to use how Kelce is employed as an example of what Pitts can do is pie in the sky.

Let's start with being a top half NFL starter, before we project a kid as one of the best of the last decade.
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I think he just means iso flex mismatch type stuff. Kelce though destroyed a top shelf corner in tredavious white Sunday. The bills put him on him situationally thinking he could handle it...he couldn’t and they paid for it...when they weren’t in zone which they spent a ton of time in
 
I don't watch enough college football to know just how good Pitts is. However, I've seen the highlights and he is clearly very very good. The NFL is littered with overdrafted TEs who were going to be the next Gronk or better. I'm still of the view that our biggest need is WR and we have basically "lucked" into the #3 pick in the Draft because of the ineptitude of the Houston Texans. Yes, GM Chris Grier set this up and negotiated well in the Laremy Tunsil trade but coming into the season absolutely no-one could have dreamt of #3 pick in the Draft from the Texans pick. I still think that we take a receiver (and DeVonta Smith is the first WR to win the Heisman Trophy in 30 years and btw he also has proven timing and chemistry with Tua).
However, if some team offers a boatload of future draft picks and we move down, anything is possible.
 
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AyyJayy said:
I think Pitts is the most underrated best pick we could have in the first round . TE as a position translates pretty well to the Pro’s . I also believe many of the reasons good TE’s do fail is related to offensive scheming, QB preference and the inability to make an impact blocking.

There are 3 huge factors in this realization specific to Tua’s development and the development of our pass game moreso than other teams.

1. Given Tua’s strengths in the RPO/bootleg, underneath routes to someone with Pitts ability to create separation would be a god send for progression and production for Tua .

2. Kyle Pitts has the most freakish athletic ability potentially ever seen by a TE, his body control, ability to make catches with his hands and win one on one matchups with anyone is unmatched by any TE prospect that I can think of. This may allow Tua to open up the deep throws, we all know he is capable.


3. If we nab our star WR, Kyle Pitts would completely stretch the field, occupy safeties and open up one on one matchups for a guy like Chase/Smith to be able to work or vice versa ( pick your poison) . Also think more deep throws here

I think it is very reasonable to use a 2022 2nd round pick to move up or package some picks to grab Pitts after selecting chase/smith or potentially trading back and using that ammo to grab say a smith/chase/waddle, Pitts, Humphries.

As for RB, I think you take Williams in the 2nd and never look back.
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You are singing from my hymnal dude
 
ANUFan said:
When will he "easily" be the best TE? Better than Kelce, Waller, Kettle etc? Tomorrow? I get the enthusiam but statements like this are so disrespectful to the current great players IN THE NFL and the hard transition from college to NFL. Pitts hasn't produced a single down at the NFL level adn there's no guarantee he will be anything close to the "best" etc.

Keep your TE that you moved up to get by giving away picks and i'll gladly use those picks to draft a Harris/Waddle combo.

Not only have i improved my running game and pass recieving game. But i've also improved my special teams unit.
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I’d rather take my smith/chase + Pitts and grab Williams in the second . These are all my observations and they are only projections as to where I think he will land but I’ve watched this guy for awhile now and he is unlike any other TE we have ever seen. Some of you keep saying TE but that’s very disrespectful to his abilities.

Look Kelce, Kettle , those guys are great. I get it . They don’t have the abilities Pitts has . The way offenses are evolving make Pitts invaluable . The guy covers two positions, TE AND WR . You wanna slide Gesicki to TE and push Pitts to the outside or slot, you got it. That’s a great value pick in my opinion .

 
hoops said:
that’s why they will probably wait to do anything there unless they sign him to a imo bad contract extension

I don’t want him locked into anything for my teams future not with no separation or run thru contact
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That's another reason I would love Miami to draft Pitts. It would show me they were smart enough not to give Gesicki a big extension.
 
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