marino is seventh best qb

[dolphan39]

of course, 1 of Dan's records is
Highest Passer Rating, Rookie, Season (Qualifiers)
96.0 Dan Marino, Miami, 1983

I would think was #4 in pass rating based on this, but either way it is obvious that the west coast offense made the #1 and #2 guys.

96.8 Steve Young, Tampa Bay, 1985-86; San Francisco, 1987-1999
92.3 Joe Montana, San Francisco, 1979-1990, 1992; Kansas City, 1993-94
86.8 Brett Favre, Atlanta, 1991; Green Bay, 1992-2001

http://www.nfl.com/randf/indiv_passing.html

Dan is the greatest QB of all-time or at least since I starting watching football - Post-Unitas. If you ever watched what he was able to do and how no one was able to do it as consistently, you would know that. He could throw any pass with ease and was great at using his size and feet to avoid being sacked. Unfortunately, he never played on a team that had a running game and a defense. And when he was close to having them, the Bills were just a little better all around - particularly their D and coaching staff.

 

[fin-atic]

Gee where is Elway???

and from NFL HaLL OF FAME SITE (SEE ANY ELWAY?):
Leading Lifetime Passers

Minimum 1500 attempts
(At the Start of 2002 Season)

Rank Player League Yrs Att Comp Yds TD INT Rating
1 (1) Steve Young NFL 15 4,149 2,667 33,124 232 107 96.8
2 (2) Joe Montana* NFL 15 5,391 3,409 40,551 273 139 92.3
3 (5) BRETT FAVRE NFL 11 5,442 3,311 38,627 287 172 86.8
4 (3) Otto Graham* AAFC-NFL 10 2,626 1,464 23,584 174 135 86.6
5 (4) Dan Marino NFL 17 8,358 4,967 61,361 420 252 86.4
6 (6) PEYTON MANNING NFL 4 2,226 1,357 16,418
111 81 85.1
7 (7) MARK BRUNELL NFL 8
3,145 1,897 22,521 125 79 85.0
8 (9) Jim Kelly* NFL 11 4,779 2,874 35,467 237 175 84.4
9 (10) Roger Staubach* NFL 11 2,958 1,685 22,700 153 109 83.4
10 (8) BRAD JOHNSON NFL 10 2,380 1,466 16,379 92 68 83.07
11 (--)
RICH GANNON NFL 13 3,295 1,949 22,256 145 88 83.06
12 (11) Neil Lomax NFL 8 3,153 1,817 22,771 136 90 82.7
13 (12) Sonny Jurgensen* NFL 18 4,262 2,433 32,224 255 189 82.63
14 (13) Len Dawson* NFL-AFL 19 3,741 2,136 28,711 239 183 82.56
15 (15) Ken Anderson NFL 16 4,475 2,654 32,838 197 160 81.9
16 (16) Bernie Kosar NFL 12 3,365 1,994 23,301 124 87 81.8
17 (17) Danny White NFL 13 2,950 1,761 21,959 155 132 81.71
18 (14) NEIL O'DONNELL NFL 11 3,197 1,844 21,434 118 67 81.66
19 (19) Troy Aikman NFL 12 4,715 2,898 32,942 165 141 81.6
20 (20) Dave Krieg NFL 19 5,311 3,105 38,147 261 199 81.5
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SOME ADDITIONAL STATS THAT SAY #1

Total Passes Attempted Total Touchdown Passes
1 Dan Marino[5] 8358 1 Dan Marino [5] 420
2 John Elway[33] 7250 2 Fran Tarkenton* [31] 342
3 Warren Moon [24] 6823 3 John Elway [33] 300
4 Fran Tarkenton* [31] 6467 4 Warren Moon [24] 291
5 VINNY TESTAVERDE [65] 5644 5 Johnny Unitas* [41] 290
6 Dan Fouts* [32] 5604 6 BRETT FAVRE [3] 287
7 BRETT FAVRE [3] 5442 7 Joe Montana* [2] 273
8 Joe Montana* [2] 5391 8 Dave Krieg [20] 261
9 Dave Krieg [20] 5311 9 Sonny Jurgensen* [13] 255
10 Boomer Esiason [23] 5205 10 Dan Fouts* [32] 254
11 Johnny Unitas* [41] 5186 11 Boomer Esiason [23] 247
12 Jim Hart [111] 5076 12 John Hadl [108] 244
13 Steve DeBerg [68] 5024 13 Y.A. Tittle* [66] 242
14 Jim Everett [38] 4923 14 VINNY TESTAVERDE [65] 241
15 Jim Kelly* [8] 4779 15 Len Dawson* [14] 239
16 Troy Aikman [19] 4715 16 Jim Kelly* [8] 237
17 John Hadl [108] 4687 17 George Blanda* [123] 236
18 Phil Simms [39] 4647 18 Steve Young [1] 232
19 Joe Ferguson [100] 4519 19 John Brodie [78] 214
20 DREW BLEDSOE [52] 4518 20 Terry Bradshaw* [91] 212
Notes: In 2001, Bledsoe entered the Top 20 in Total Passes Attempted. Roman Gabriel (4498) was displaced.

Next in Line: Quarterbacks active in 2001 who are closest to attaining Top 20 in Total Passes Attempted. . .Randall Cunningham (4289). Notes: No new quarterbacks entered the Top 20 in Total Touchdown Passes in 2001.

Next in Line: Quarterbacks active in 2001 who are closest to attaining Top 20 in Total Touchdown Passes. . . Randall Cunningham (207).
Total Passes Completed Total Yards Passing
1 Dan Marino [5] 4967 1 Dan Marino [5] 61,361
2 John Elway [33] 4123 2 John Elway [33] 51,475
3 Warren Moon [24] 3988 3 Warren Moon [24] 49,325
4 Fran Tarkenton* [31] 3686 4 Fran Tarkenton* [31] 47,003
5 Joe Montana* [2] 3409 5 Dan Fouts* [32] 43,040
6 BRETT FAVRE [3] 3311 6 Joe Montana* [2] 40,551
7 Dan Fouts* [32] 3297 7 Johnny Unitas* [41] 40,239
8 VINNY TESTAVERDE [65] 3157 8 VINNY TESTAVERDE [65] 39,059
9 Dave Krieg [20] 3105 9 BRETT FAVRE [3] 38,627
10 Boomer Esiason [23] 2969 10 Dave Krieg [20] 38,147
11 Troy Aikman [19] 2898 11 Boomer Esiason [23] 37,920
12T Jim Kelly* [8] 2874 12 Jim Kelly* [8] 35,467
12T Steve DeBerg [68] 2874 13 Jim Everett [38] 34,837
14 Jim Everett [38] 2841 14 Jim Hart [111] 34,665
15 Johnny Unitas* [41] 2830 15 Steve DeBerg [68] 34,241
16 Steve Young [1] 2667 16 John Hadl [108] 33,503
17 Ken Anderson [15] 2654 17 Phil Simms [39] 33,462
18 Jim Hart [111] 2593 18 Steve Young [1] 33,124
19 Phil Simms [39] 2576 19 Y.A. Tittle* [66] 33,070
20 DREW BLEDSOE [52] 2544 20 Troy Aikman [19] 32,942
Notes: No new quarterbacks entered the Top 20 in Total Passes Completed in 2001.

Gee looks like number one in all the majpor categories. Especially things like touchdowns and wins. Don't they count the most??YES!

Congratulations your credibility is shot. Not go away.

 

[sideburn]

Umm, Actually Elway is first in wins by a qb, so umm yeah

 

[J-E-T-S]

I'm not taking sides, just posting stats...
2000 SB: J. Elway: 18-29, 336 yards, 1 TD, 1 InT
T. Davis: 25 carries - 102 yards 0 TD
1999 SB: J. Elway: 12-22, 123 yard, 0 TD, 1 INT, (1 TD rushing)
T. Davis: 30 carries 157 yards, 3 TDs

The 2 wins were very different, as you can see.

 

[phinfan_1]

Re: dip schitz....................

Originally posted by clayton83
... but i will say this, you obviously never saw marino play, expecially in his prime or you wouldn't be in here wasting everyones time with this mindless b.s...


So true clayton83. Watched some old dolphins games on video tape 1985. God Marino was awesome. Any one who doesn't see that is either blind or to young.

 

[sideburn]

First of all, you have to remember, opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one....Bronco and Dolphin fans will never agree on who the best quarterback is, just one thing can be assured, Montana was a system quarterback

 

[Baz]

The kid must have been dropped on his head as a kid. He comes to a Dolphins message board and comes and claims Marino is the 7th best QB? Thats like saying you were a communist back in the 50's. Real smart kid......

 

[dolphan39]

Originally posted by sideburn
First of all, you have to remember, opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one....Bronco and Dolphin fans will never agree on who the best quarterback is, just one thing can be assured, Montana was a system quarterback

sounds like a good, diplomatic approach to me :D

 

[sideburn]

It's all part of the master plan, I just watched the old 80's miniseries "V" on tv and have learned to attack your enemies you must draw them closer:evil:

 

[sideburn]

actually I was just looking for a reason to post the evil smiley face, it looks pretty cool

 

[girlphan]

First of all, as has been stated many times, winning a Super Bowl is a TEAM effort. Second, Marino had that amazing quick release, who cares if he could run.

Originally posted by sideburn
Umm, Actually Elway is first in wins by a qb, so umm yeah

qbs don't win games, teams do.

:monkey: Elway

:hail: Marino

 

[baccarat]

Originally posted by sideburn
Montana was a system quarterback

And an overrated one.

 

[sideburn]

qb's don't win games????hahaahaahaahaahaahaahaahaaa, go back and watch a broncos game from the 80's, or better yet, watch "THE DRIVE" AFC championship game from 86, then tell me qb's don't win games

 

[baccarat]

Originally posted by BSQX4
Hey "Bronco Geek" tell us the six Q.B.s above Marino in your opinion so we can have another laugh at your expense, then get lost!

I'm with you. Come on Bronco. I need a good laugh.

 

[girlphan]

Originally posted by sideburn
qb's don't win games????hahaahaahaahaahaahaahaahaaa, go back and watch a broncos game from the 80's, or better yet, watch "THE DRIVE" AFC championship game from 86, then tell me qb's don't win games

If qbs win games why are any of the other players even out there? A qb can make a tremendous impact in a game but cannot win a game all by themselves. Get real. What control does a qb have over what happens when the other team's offense is on the field? I stand by my statement.

:monkey: BRONCOS

:monkey: ELWAY