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I don't think Tua haters are Rosen supporters so there's that.
New OC Chan Gailey system is a perfect fit - For Josh Rosen
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Who better on the team knows about the quarterback?
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Sheeeeeiiit...many of you have given your undying loyalty to a QB who has never taken an NFL snap.
Well I would certainly hope the GM knows more about this year's QB prospects than a guy who's been retired from football since 2017...
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"Many of you", I have no loyalty to any particular QB. I have stated that basic premise consistently.
I had have not been impressed with a single QB Davie has brought in since Marino retired. NONE. Disliked the fan boi love of Pennington, gave Henne rope and always wanted a offensive line not built on FA and oft injured Vets for Tannehill.
As for Rosen, I again will state I was grateful ARZ traded up for him. Even with my issues with Tannehill, I had zero love for Rosen..None.
Disliked the trade. And when he was given the opportunity he continued his track record at the NFL level, despite his successor looking competent in Arizona.
It is what it is.
As for Tua, when healthy or even injured he put up numbers. He played like a leader and throws a nice ball. Now....if you can attack me on one thing, it would be my hesitation on Burrows mid season.
Anywho, I hope you can understand as a Moderator I am the last person to engage in group think.
Great post. I warmed up to the Gailey hire after a couple of hours. He’s had success as an OC everywhere.I've been searching around trying to figure out a few things about changing our OC, and specifically interested in why we may have hired Chan Gailey. Chan is a well known commodity and likes the Spread and various Power formations in his scheme. Basically he likes extremes. Force them to defend overwhelming formations and try to fool them on some Play Action when you can. It's been pretty well documented that there are ties between Fitzpatrick and Gailey, but there's also some things about Josh Rosen that could bode well for him getting another strong look. Here's some things I've found reading up on various posts all over the internet about Gailey and how his scheme may be perfect for Rosen.
From a reddit article:
The case for Josh Rosen and the spread offense.
Rosen ran the spread offense in high school. Here you can find a breakdown of Rosen's success in the scheme during high school. This is how he first learned to play QB.
Rosen ran an up-tempo spread scheme early in his college career as well. As a freshman in the system, he passed for 3,670 yards with 23 TDs, 11 INTs, a 60% completion percentage, and a rating of 134.3.
After Kingsbury was hired by the Cards, he made numerous comments about Josh Rosen being a great fit for his offense. Ultimately they chose Kyler Murray, but it was made clear that they did so because they believed Kyler to be a generational talent, not because Rosen doesn't fit into the spread. Kingsbury said of Rosen, " Josh is a tremendous player, I've always thought, watching him at UCLA. He played his best football in a spread system, some similarities to what we do."
Rosen ran these concepts with great success throughout high school and to start his college career, then he was forced to endure a litany of new coordinators every year. Chan Gailey will be Rosen's 7th offensive coordinator in the last 5 years and his 4th NFL-level coordinator.
Of course, all of the Rosen speculation is for naught if Tua declares and we snag him at 5. But maybe the universal Tua love from Grier and Ross was just a smoke screen. Perhaps they had to change plans when Tua went down with the hip injury. Either way, there's no denying the fact that switching to a spread offense could not only benefit us in the short term with Fitz, but it also plays into the strengths of Josh Rosen.
Gailey makes sense on all 3 different scenarios:
Fitz is the starter next year
Fitz is the starter next year until Rookie overtakes him
Fitz is the starter next year until Rosen develops or Rosen overtakes him early and starts
Gailey has a history of running a spread offense, and the Dolphins will likely implement more of that in 2020. But that doesn't mean strictly pass-happy. Gailey has led successful run offenses and he will try to establish that approach in Miami.
Dolphins' most important offseason in recent memory is in high gear
What Miami does at the game's most important position is the biggest question -- among many -- entering the offseason.www.espn.com
Some players described the Dolphins' offense under O'Shea as complex. The expectation under Gailey will be to run an offense that is easier to understand, which should help mold a young roster that will most likely include a rookie quarterback. Developing Rosen is on that to-do list as well.
Gailey's arrival is a big positive for Fitzpatrick, who played for the veteran coach in Buffalo as well as with the New York Jets. The reunion helps Fitzpatrick's chances to return in 2020 as the incumbent starting quarterback.
There are some thoughts though that the Dolphins have seen enough of Josh Rosen, and there are 5 teams that may want to trade for him in 2020
5 potential new teams for Josh Rosen in 2020
The Miami Dolphins have apparently seen all they want to of him, so here are five possible new teams for Josh Rosen in 2020.fansided.com
I'm looking forward to seeing how our QB situation sorts itself out this offseason... Round one will tell us quite a bit of how much of a look we can expect Rosen to get in Gailey's new scheme.
I’m guessing you didn’t like Pat White or Cleo Lemon then?
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I love Pat White and his shrimping. On a boat....
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Some teams may like somethings about Rosen but he only has a any value to us because his trade value has plummeted farther. I do not think any team covets him except at little to no risk
I root "against" him because I want a competent player there. If he magically sprouts talent or can read a defense, I'll root for him.
He has talent - arm strength and mobility. Can make all the throws. Still had to learn how to get the ball out quicker and “play” the position at the NFL level.
That's not nearly as bad as giving your undying loyalty to a guy who has actually taken NFL snaps and has sucked the whole time.
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Dunno about star...but I think he can be the QB of the team.
Flores made a mistake taking him out of the lineup earlier, but it's his mistake to live with.