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I don't like Stidham's composure under pass rush pressure. Not a big Easton Stick fan. I'd probably take every quarterback on my list here over him.
I don't like Stidham's composure under pass rush pressure. Not a big Easton Stick fan. I'd probably take every quarterback on my list here over him.
What do you all think of Will Grier?. I was upset when the Gators let him go because of the PEDs. Looks like he’s matured since then and his accuracy is gold.
I’m all in on the Jarrett Stidham train though, I think he’s going to be good this year, he’s a smart football player with brains to dissect a defense. I also want to see how Shea Patterson plays in Harbaughs system, he could be good as well.
I was wondering if anyone here on the draft forum has seen Drew Lock's last 2 games? He sure looks much improved over what I saw last year. Was hoping to get your thought about what you've seen so far. He sure looks like he can make all the throws expected of an NFL starter. He throws a very catchable ball and seems to be able to go through his progressions while reading defenses. On top of all that he has an uncanny knack for dropping his long balls right into the bucket. His pocket awareness seems to be above average as well. Lock is the type of QB, I think Gase would fall in love with.
Perhaps I've took too much into how easy it looked for him these last 2 games and those long pass plays. I've read he's a bit more accurate than he's get credit for. His receivers have had the dropseies on him. I'll just file this one away as a hopeful homer, in myself, who knows Miami may need a young developmental type QB for the long term; in spite of the Luke Falk signing.The thing is, he hasn't really been tested yet. He could close his eyes and look good against UT-Martin. Wyoming's defense provided a little more of a challenge, but where you really have to start paying attention is when SEC play starts.
Lock throws a great deep ball. He's better at that than he is throwing underneath or mid range. The weakness for Lock in my opinion is that he struggles with medium range throws. He hasn't really developed a nuanced way to throw in the middle of the field or underneath - he hasn't learned how to take a little something off of certain throws yet. Everything is a sidearm fastball underneath. Furthermore, he tends to lose underneath defenders and this is where he's subject to throw interceptions. He almost threw what would've been a pick 6 in one of these situations against Wyoming but the DB dropped it.
He's a decent quarterback prospect with an NFL caliber arm and decent size. Where he's improved the most in my opinion from last year is his movement skills. He was a statue. People have to keep in mind that he's still barely above a 53% passer for his career, and has a 7-17 record against SEC competition. I don't think he's franchise quarterback material, but in reality very, very few are. He's just an average quarterback prospect in my estimation. There are Drew Lock's in almost every draft. I have him graded very similar to Bryce Petty coming out of Baylor.
I think I did a writeup on Justice Hansen somewhere in this forum a while back.
Slimm I'd love to know where you end up on him coming out of that Alabama game.
Pretty much everyone is being overwhelmed by Alabama right now and far be it a Arkansas State to buck that trend. But I saw a guy with talent who was punching. It was a losing battle, but he punched the whole way. The players all around him on offense were totally flaccid. I can't believe how many drops he had to endure. If I were him I'd have started slashing their tires and throwing drinks in their faces, but he just patiently kept feeding them good ball after good ball, good decision after good decision (a few exceptions). I didn't even necessarily see bad body language, which REALLY makes me wonder (more on that).
He was a guy that I watched last year, liked a lot, clearly saw the potential, knew he'd go on 'the list' so to speak because it's all about watching to see which guys reach out and take that next step. I saw his other action this year against the likes of Tulsa, UNLV, Georgia Southern, and was very impressed. He looks pretty much exactly like you'd expect some swinging dick pro quarterback to look if he somehow ended up at Arkansas State.
But I knew the statistics were bad against Bama and they lost by a ton, so I was sort of bracing myself for what that tape was going to look like, and rather than being a turn-off, it ended up being a very strongly affirming piece of evidence.
The arm talent is ridiculous, as you'd expect of a guy who used to be an elite level QB prospect coming out of high school. But it's the other stuff that has me. The running ability is fantastic! There was a point against Bama, you may even remember it, on a scramble it looked like he may even give Deionte Thompson of all players a run for his money in a foot race. When you see it you see it, and I seent it.
You will of course remember what was so attractive about Gunner Kiel and the way he could use the deep middle. Justice Hansen does that too. But the f-ckup factor isn't anywhere close to Kiel, nor the bad body language, which is huge because I'm wary of a guy like Hansen with his background.
It makes for a nice story, a guy who hit rock bottom and climbed his way out of it. But I don't like guys with rain clouds that seem to follow them everywhere. You could almost see like a Todd Marinovich situation developing with him. But...what if he really IS straightened out, got some religion, whatever? (whistle)
This is not a great senior class. I struggle to think of anyone on this list I've seen that looks better on tape.