I would also like him to be consistent. I like what I've seen from him in the last 3 weeks and I was also impressed in the second half of 2016, but I need to see it consistently for a longer period before I'm completely sold. Also, the issues we've been having on 3rd down have got to get fixed sooner or later if we are to be successful with him. I'm not saying It's entirely his fault or that he's the main reason we've been having those problems, but at some point he should get his fair share of the blame if it keeps happening. Look at guys like Luck or even Allen moving around and extending plays when protection breaks down. I'm not saying he should be able to replicate that because it's clearly not his game, but at least do something that's better than what we are currently seeing. He's plenty athletic so that shouldn't be a problem. If he can stay healthy, be consistent and find a way to improve his play on 3rd down, especially when it comes to pocket awareness, than I have no problem keeping him for as long as we can. But I have to see it first, and please don't confuse me for some blind Tanne hater, because I'm not.
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I would also like him to be consistent. I like what I've seen from him in the last 3 weeks and I was also impressed in the second half of 2016, but I need to see it consistently for a longer period before I'm completely sold. Also, the issues we've been having on 3rd down have got to get fixed sooner or later if we are to be successful with him. I'm not saying It's entirely his fault or that he's the main reason we've been having those problems, but at some point he should get his fair share of the blame if it keeps happening. Look at guys like Luck or even Allen moving around and extending plays when protection breaks down. I'm not saying he should be able to replicate that because it's clearly not his game, but at least do something that's better than what we are currently seeing. He's plenty athletic so that shouldn't be a problem. If he can stay healthy, be consistent and find a way to improve his play on 3rd down, especially when it comes to pocket awareness, than I have no problem keeping him for as long as we can. But I have to see it first, and please don't confuse me for some blind Tanne hater, because I'm not.
12-4 over his last 16 games, and you are talking about “give Tannehill another year to see”. Sorry, he has proved more than enough to be this team’s starter.
Lack of consistency and missed opportunities on 3rd down are fair criticisms.
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He has 3041 net passing yards on 461 dropbacks while the team has had 1932 rushing yards on 410 attempts. This is from his last 16 games. The team is winning in spite of him.
Like I said earlier, those 16 games you mention happened over the span of 3 football seasons and more than 2 calendar years. I don't think you can count it as a typical NFL season and 12-4 record. I want to see him play a full season next year and do it well before I'm ready to stick with him in 2020 and beyond. However, I'm encouraged by what I've been seeing lately.
His YPA is 7.7. That would tie him for 7th this season. This year his YPA is 8.0 (which is 9th) so, try again.
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Hard to be consistent behind this OL.
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Tannehill is a worst case scenario player because his lack of pocket awareness coupled with his considerable talent leave him as our starter that will never win anything meaningful forever...
It’s a nightmare really....
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I would be shocked if Grier is taken in the first round tbh, it would be a reach by any team based on concerns about his arm strength. There are already really good options at the top of the QB draft class, Haskins, Herbert and Lock are all certain first rounders while if Kyler Murray forgoes his baseball career and decides to play a proper sport, he'll likely go before all three, he's got better stats than anyone inf CFB this year including Tua and better than Mayfield's numbers from last year on the same team. Grier is a 2nd to 3rd rounder, could be a good value pick for someone, but unless he can prove his arm strength will hold up in the NFL, then it's a huge gamble for someone to take him in the first. Gardner Minshew may be a good fit for a Gase offense, he's likely going in the mid rounds 4-6, if he decides to give the pros a shot.
After Tannehill performance on Sunday and his general good play since he returned, barring an almighty collapse in the last 3 games, he'll be back deservedly as the starter next year and they'll be looking to strike lucky on a draft pick, doubt we use our first rounder now on a replacement. Personally would love Murray, Haskins or Herbert (in that order) and I would be all on board a Lock train if we went that route. Grier and Minshew won't beat out Tannehill in 2019.
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as much as i hate to get into this debate the fact that we even have to stitch games together to create a full season worth crediting Tannehill with is not exactly a winning characteristic. not to mention he was 1-4 heading into that 16 game stretch.
and if your answer is "well he was injured" then you're only further proving a point. considering the injuries and the fact that he has never manned a 16 game season that led us to a winning record let alone the playoffs completely justifies the "give another year" mentality. you can't just brush off the criticism. i'm not saying give him the bortles treatment but there is no reason not to use serious draft ammunition if there is a prospect that we like.
i love tannehill's arm and his toughness but mentally he seems to do more thinking than feeling at the position.
With the win over the Brady led Patriots Ryan tied Peyton Manning as the only QB to lead his team to 4 regular season victories over a Brady led team.
It took Peyton 12 games to accomplish it. Ryan has done it in 10 match ups.
Ryan now has more wins against the Brady led Patriots than 28 NFL franchises
Miami 11 (4) by Ryan
Jets 7
Broncos 6
Ryan Tannehill 4
Peyton Manning 4
Carolina, Chiefs, Colts 3
Rest of NFL
It took Peyton 12 games to accomplish it. Ryan has done it in 10 match ups.
Ryan now has more wins against the Brady led Patriots than 28 NFL franchises
Miami 11 (4) by Ryan
Jets 7
Broncos 6
Ryan Tannehill 4
Peyton Manning 4
Carolina, Chiefs, Colts 3
Rest of NFL
Just say you want an Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees level QB. Top 5% of players in the league. Because you aren't getting RT's type of performance without one. Even with Rodgers, you still need a good offensive line. Otherwise you are setting him up to get injured.
Do you want an all pro QB just to say well at least we have an All Pro QB while being mediocre every year?
You double down on fixing the offensive line weaknesses and getting quality depth behind the starters. Keep your starting QB upright for 16 games and you have a chance.
The nightmare is having so many season ending injuries. That is where the nightmare begins and ends. Don't let your frustration due to injuries make you believe that RT is the problem.
Actually relative to what each brings to the party from a purely "price/value" matrix, the advantage of Tannehill over Cousins really isn't close.