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*** Tannehill's Comeback Mega Thread ***

J. David Wannyheimer said:
I've held the belief since 2013 that Ryan Tannehill is a good quarterback surrounded by garbage. I continue to hold that belief. We'll see in 2018, if his knee is fine, what happens. Since these threads are circular and often devolved into multiple parties just rehashing the same tired arguments over and over again, I'll just say this:

1. The Dolphins haven't had a great or even good defense since probably 2008. Maybe with the exception of the brief time that Reshad Jones and IAQ were healthy and on the field together -- the defense played well during that period -- It's certainly been deteriorating since he got here, with the loss of Karlos Dansby and the perennial dumpster fire we trot out at LB. Secondary problems have also plagued the team.

2. The offensive line has not been bad. It has been terrible. We saw the best performance out of our OL during Tannehill's tenure in 2012 (While not great, it was acceptable until Jake Long got hurt), and in 2016 after Adam Gase finally cut the dead weight of Turner/Thomas. Not surprisingly, after Gase made drastic changes to the OL personnel in 2016, the team went on a tear and won 9 out of the final 11 games.

I mean, how do you go back and watch 2013 game film with a straight face making these kind of arguments? Tyson Clabo and Jon Martin were so bad I still intensely dislike both of them to this day. Remember Steve Ross pulling Jeff Ireland and Joe Philbin aside after the Ravens game and telling them "DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE TACKLES OR YOU'RE BOTH FIRED?" And then they went and traded with Baltimore for Bryant McKinnie... a guy who had just been determined to be so bad that they had to trade for tackle Eugene Monroe, and McKinnie was STILL a huge upgrade over Jon Martin? McKinnie, like MANY Dolphins offensive players who have been here since 2012, then promptly retired after the season because HE WAS COMPLETELY WASHED UP AND COULDN'T PLAY ANYMORE.

It's the QB's fault he couldn't get more out of that?

3. The other skill players on offense. Mike Wallace never came close to matching again the production he had in Miami in 2014. Brian Hartline lasted maybe one more season in which he did basically nothing, then retired. Charles Clay -- one of the few legitimately good pieces we've had -- is currently doing jack **** in Buffalo. Other starting skill players? Legedu Naanee? Anthony Armstrong? Jordan Cameron? Julius Thomas? Davone Bess? Bueller? Anyone? Anyone? Even the guys I like, like Dion Sims, are doing absolutely NOTHING. Lamar Miller's career imploded after he signed with the Texans.

Unless you count blocking specialist Anthony Fasano, the ONE example of success we can find with a player who left Miami is Rishard Matthews. He's done well for himself in Tennessee. That shouldn't be a surprise, before he got hurt in 2015 he was the team's #2 receiving target and Tannehill had something obscene like a 120 passer rating when going to him. Guy's good, and even though we drafted him we somehow managed to get just one year of production out of him. Unbelievable. That leads me to...

4. Coaching. Since I know that some people get VERY upset when I criticize Mike Sherman or Bill Lazor, let's just talk about that offensive staff under Joe Philbin in general. They got mad at Rishard Matthews, and the story I heard was that he went out to his car during halftime of a pre-season game or something, and sat him in the doghouse for THREE YEARS because of that. Kenny Stills arrived in Miami in 2015 and I remember having arguments with people in the 2016 pre-season about whether or not he should be cut. Since Adam Gase arrived, does anyone still think he should be cut? Anybody? Again, the coaching staff was a group of incompetent buffoons who did not know how to use personnel.

Remember in 2015 when they had the corpse of Greg Jennings -- oh man, I actually forgot Greg Jennings in the above part -- and put him in the lineup in place of Devante Parker, who was nursing an injury? Then Remember when they had 38 year old Jennings running fades and other plays that were put in for Parker? They didn't even bother to adjust anything, they were like "Yeah, screw it, have Jennings go up for a jump ball."

Watch the play on the field. The quarterback is not the problem. The quarterback was out there trying to carry DEAD *** WEIGHT and running into problems like the fact that it's not physically possible to catch your own damn passes. After watching 14 games of Jay Cutler you guys really still think the QB is the problem? lmao

Is Wingfield around and posting today? Get him in here. Have him post some .gifs of clutch dimes on third down or in the red zone that were straight up DROPPED over the past five years. Get a montage going. It'll sicken you.
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Thank God.

Here's the best part. The THC (Typical Hater Crew) does this lovely bit about "Oh, look at you Tannelovers defending him! It must be everyone's fault but Tannehill's! Tannehill doesn't elevate the players around him!"

And most of that passive-aggressive talk is complete dog****. Go ahead and look up the offensive linemen and wide receivers who left Miami after playing with Tannehill. And see how many are still in the league.

I'll give you a hint, haters. You wouldn't have to take off your socks to count them. THAT'S how bad some of the **** was that he had to work with. Somewhere out there, Brian Hartline had better send Tannehill a fruit basket every Christmas, because he had a huge part in earning Hartline a cool $6 million.
 
You guys that were in favor of us drafting a QB make some good points, but I think we made the right moves drafting the two guys we took 1 and 2. Fitzpatrick is just too good a player to pass up. We got two guys that should make an immediate impact.
 
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