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Fin-Loco said:
Ok. What is the bet on how many posts on this thread between now and the moment Tua is drafted? We're at 2,280 now. I'm betting 9,153. How about the rest of you?
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How do you find out what's the record on the board?
 
Any Orthopedic Specialist or anyone ever had Tua hip injury? I've read you never come back healthy from that. Any one with info?
 
Pompy said:
Any Orthopedic Specialist or anyone ever had Tua hip injury? I've read you never come back healthy from that. Any one with info?
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My buddy is an Ortho. He says it's a scary injury. in terms of normal life, he should have 100% quality of life hip wise. As a Qb however, it's susceptible to re-injury and very likely to have early onset arthritis that could prove to be near crippling if it got very bad. There was a TE Pitta I think his name was for Balt who had the same injury and it got so bad he retired. Doesn't mean that will happen to Tua though. From what I read the med staff for Bama helped his future quit a bit by how they reacted. If they had been slower, he'd be in bad shape. Every one is different so he could be just fine. Have to wait and see.
 
CJ Mosley was another player who had a hip injury, he was also an Alabama player. He’s been to the pro bowl 4 times.

tdalabamamag.com

Tua Tagovailoa can have C.J. Mosley-like recovery from hip injury

After talking about Tua Tagovailoa in his opening statement on Monday and taking questions from reporters on the junior quarterback, Alabama’s Nick Saban recaptured a memory on a former Crimson Tide player that had the same misfortune yet found a way to bounce back. Before he became a Butkus...
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Fin-Loco said:
My buddy is an Ortho. He says it's a scary injury. in terms of normal life, he should have 100% quality of life hip wise. As a Qb however, it's susceptible to re-injury and very likely to have early onset arthritis that could prove to be near crippling if it got very bad. There was a TE Pitta I think his name was for Balt who had the same injury and it got so bad he retired. Doesn't mean that will happen to Tua though. From what I read the med staff for Bama helped his future quit a bit by how they reacted. If they had been slower, he'd be in bad shape. Every one is different so he could be just fine. Have to wait and see.
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Dennis Pita broke the same hip multiple times then he decided to call it quits.

After his first one he had a career year.
 
mwestberry said:
Weak argument … Mahomes wasn't projected to be a #1 overall draft pick … apples to oranges IMO … only an idiot or a team with that talent already would bypass the chance to select a "generational talent" at QB ... arguably the most important player on the team ... 2 teams ahead of us have aging veterans that could groom him IF he had to sit for a year and if not the veterans would give both teams trade bait .... one team ahead of us has a one year guy that didn't exactly light it up as a rookie (and a new regime) .... the other team has Daniel Jones who has not proven to be a generational talent ....

Makes no sense at all .... but I do understand the hope some have
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Sorry for not making the snark more clear.

Mahomes is clearly one of the best, possibly the best, QB in the league today -- and nobody except KC saw that coming. So what does the phrase generational talent really mean when the guy who is clearly heads and shoulders above almost everyone wasn't seen as such? Hindsight is so damned easy, foresight on the other hand...

On the flip side, when was the has the last "generational talent" coming out of the draft at #1 actually panned out as such? Looking back a couple of years at the number 1 pick QB's -- because one would think that a obvious generational talent, well being obvious, would go #1 for sure :
Mayfield: runs hot and cold -- not generational
Goff -- oh please
Winston -- runs hot and cold -- not generational
Luck -- Damn good QB, but didn't change the game -- not generational
Newton -- on paper, looked like he might be, but his stats and record say otherwise
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Vick
Manning (the good one) -- and we get all the way to 1998 to find a candidate that lived up to the billing

At least for me, the phrase "generational talent" when it's applied to a QB in the draft means some people had an opinion and hindsight suggests that they were almost always wrong. So using the phrase to justify "taking making any trade necessary to get your guy" is just a way to say "I really, really, really want that person" and doesn't add much to the conversation about how to value the cost of the trade.
 
NBP81 said:
And QBs are way different than TEs...
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They are. But I swear that after qb the tight end is the biggest difference maker piece. Assuming you have one that is in fact a difference maker.

split flex iso in line. The ones that can do all of it at the plus level aren’t just rare they are virtually impossible to stop.
 
finomenal said:
Watch Burrow & Tua pull an Eli and decline Cincy. :lol:
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Tua pretty much already has. He did that with Detroit as well, well his family did they said he doesn’t wanna go there he wants to go to Miami.

Burrow is an Ohio kid so I don’t see him declining
 
hoops said:
They are. But I swear that after qb the tight end is the biggest difference maker piece. Assuming you have one that is in fact a difference maker.

split flex iso in line. The ones that can do all of it at the plus level aren’t just rare they are virtually impossible to stop.
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I was talking about the difference between positions in terms of contact as it comes to the hip injury, they were comparing Pita and Tua.... I was merely stating that its not a fair comparison.
 
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