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We Need a Deep Threat @ WR

FinsAreLife said:
im not disagreeing with u man im just making a joke

sorry man it's the Bill fans... they are getting to me with their constant agruing
 
Chambers has the downfield speed but hes also a possesion receiver. Hes best of bost worlds. He makes the clutch one handers and feet in bounds catches and he can burn it in open field. He just needs the damn ball thrown to him more.
 
nick19991 said:
sorry man it's the Bill fans... they are getting to me with their constant agruing

its alright i understand, they r too woried about their own qb situation that they gotta make fun of someone elses
 
Listen to perezferia, he hasn't been wrong so far.

romio said:
are you crazy chambers is a speed demon! and gilmore maybe even faster, do your home work!

DOL Wide Reciever HGT WGT Speed RATING
84 CHAMBERS Chris 6- 0.0 203 4.39 655.28
86 BOOKER Marty 5-11.0 217 4.56 586.4
82 GILMORE Bryan 5-11.0 194 4.38

Nice numbers. Very impressive. However he doesn't play "fast" he plays quick. There's a difference. He's a natural slot receiver. His first year he played the slot and caught a bunch of TD's for us. He's got speed and he CAN use it, but he doesn't play like a speed receiver.

Maybe if you were a coach you'd understand what I'm saying.

I can appreciate your stats however and how they would confuse the issue.

If you really believe we're set with GILMORE and CHAMBERS just remember that they were both here last year and didn't make a damn bit of difference in our 4-12 season. Not on a wet field against the Bengals, a frozen field against the PATS or a dry field against the Ravens.

You can throw stats at me all day. I WATCH the on-field speed.

NO ONE IS AFRAID OF CHRIS CHAMBERS and certainly NO ONE IS EVEN REMOTELY STARTLED BY BRIAN GILMORE.

Get over it. We need a TRUE speed guy ASAP.

Listen to perezferia, he hasn't been wrong so far.
 
Luther Huggins

Fins 34 said:
We all know Linehan likes to go deep. Feeley and Ferotte have the arm to get the ball downfield. My question is, who is goign to be downfield to catch the deep ball. Chambers? Booker? I don't think so, not consistently anyway.

We need someone to come in and stretch the DEF. This would open up our presumed strength, backfield passes to Brown, Mc Mike, Booker underneath, and Chambers on the out patterns.

Any suggestions, FA's or possible cap casualties forthcoming out there?

Luther Huggins is a UDFA WR that we signed a few weeks ago... he is blazing fast! if he makes the team he can definatly strech the field from the slot! he might end up being a BIG pick up!

Nasty
 
perezferia said:
We need a deep threat and it's NOT Chambers. If Chambers' had deep threat speed he would've never lasted into the second round. He's quick, and in my opinion a natural slot receiver, but not a flyer. He's to big and lanky. Booker is a natural possesion receiver.
First of all, you have to bring into account that Chambers was in a run-first offense in college (similar to the run-run-pass offense Wanny had). Very often people don't want to take chances on someone who might be great, that's why we drafted him later.
Chambers is big and lanky? The guy is 5'11 210 lbs. Not exactly big and lanky.
 
perezferia said:
Nice numbers. Very impressive. However he doesn't play "fast" he plays quick. There's a difference. He's a natural slot receiver. His first year he played the slot and caught a bunch of TD's for us. He's got speed and he CAN use it, but he doesn't play like a speed receiver.

Maybe if you were a coach you'd understand what I'm saying.

I can appreciate your stats however and how they would confuse the issue.

If you really believe we're set with GILMORE and CAHMBERS just remember that they were both here last year and didn't make a damn bit of difference in our 4-12 season. Not on a wet field against the Bengals, or a dry field against the Ravens.

You can throw stats at me all day. I WATCH the on field speed.

NO ONE IS AFRAID OF CHRIS CHAMBERS and certainly NO ONE IS EVEN REMOTELY STARTLED BY BRIAN GILMORE.

Get over it. We need a TRUE speed guy ASAP.

Listen to perezferia, he hasn't been wrong so far.


how do u no he doesnt play the deep ball type reciever e've never really seen him there, u dont know he could be good at it but i agree he is and can be a good slot reciever
 
Fins 34 said:
Are those Chambers' numbers from when he was a rookie or are they recent? Hee seems to have bulked up quite abit over the past few years. This could have slowed him down a full second or two.

A full second or two slower would put Chambers at 5.4 to 6.4 seconds....now that isn't even fast enough to get open with Jamie Nails covering you. Maybe you meant tenths of a second?

:wink:
 
romio said:
are you crazy chambers is a speed demon! and gilmore maybe even faster, do your home work!

DOL Wide Reciever HGT WGT Speed RATING
84 CHAMBERS Chris 6- 0.0 203 4.39 655.28
86 BOOKER Marty 5-11.0 217 4.56 586.4
82 GILMORE Bryan 5-11.0 194 4.38
Thanks Romio! :up:
 
Do you know what that word means?

popularwar said:
First of all, you have to bring into account that Chambers was in a run-first offense in college (similar to the run-run-pass offense Wanny had). Very often people don't want to take chances on someone who might be great, that's why we drafted him later.
Chambers is big and lanky? The guy is 5'11 210 lbs. Not exactly big and lanky.

Oh come on... Now CHAMBERS isn't lanky? Do you know what that word means? It has nothing to do with height, it has to do with the proportion of your height to the LENGTH of your limbs!

Chambers has REALLY LONG LIMBS. That makes him LANKY by definition.

He's a quick guy and has INCREDIBLE body control. Plus, the heart of a lion.

Now, let's get that SPEED BURNER to come in here and take the pressure off him having to suddenly play as fast as he ran at the combine a few years back.
 
Yeah Chambers might be very fast, but it doesnt matter when he is the only threat at reciever. Its not so much about how good a reciever is but you cant let the D key on one reciever. Marvin Harrison is a great example, he gets good numbers every year in that pass happy offense but the big plays usually go to somebody like Stokley because he doesn't command double coverage.

If we can put a threat on the other side of Chambers then we would be able to see what he can do, until them we are going to just get what we see with Chambers a lot of talent being held back. Booker may help him some more this year, but I still think he needs more help.

Like I said he can be the fastest person on the field but when he has to fight through 2 guys to get off the line, his speed doesnt matter a dam bit.
 
perezferia said:
Now, let's get that SPEED BURNER to come in here and take the pressure off him having to suddenly play as fast as he ran at the combine a few years back.

ummm...you said we need a 4.3-4.4 guy as our "speed burner"... yet "lanky" Chambers runs a 4.39.

:hmmm:
 
Chambers has been open deep ever since he came into the league. But, Fiedler could never get him the ball without underthrowing him. And last year, we had no time to throw deep, so they took the deep routes out of the offense. That said, we need TWO deep threats. We need another guy who can scare the defense to get those safeties out of the box. And right now, we may not have that guy on the roster. Gilmore can fly, but he needs to prove he can get off the line and catch before he scares anybody.
 
perezferia said:
Nice numbers. Very impressive. However he doesn't play "fast" he plays quick. There's a difference. He's a natural slot receiver. His first year he played the slot and caught a bunch of TD's for us. He's got speed and he CAN use it, but he doesn't play like a speed receiver.

Chambers is fast. Call his number on a fade route and you'll see the speed. He has had his guy beat deep a number of times in the past two years but the QB has not been able to get him the ball. No one will side with you that Chambers is not fast.

I think Booker has the ability to stretch the field. When given the opportunity he has been very solid in ability to catch the balls down the field and even though he is no burner, he just knows how to get open. I think he is very under rated by many dolphins fans here. This guy is a 100 catch, 1000+ yard player, he is an asset to our team.

Now I don't see the fascination with Gilmore. He may be fast, but watching him run routes and catch the ball, I don't seem much else from him them being a situational 4th/5th reciever type. The big thing for me about a WR is his hands, and I do not think Gilmore has good ones. He dosn't fluidly catch the ball, bobbling it around before securing it in, and every time the ball is thrown to him or Thompson I have to hold my breath. Thats why I'm a fan of Boston, he has very solid hands along with his physical attributes. What good is a WR if he's going to drop the ball when you need the 1st down.
 
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