Is it not easier to block when the proper protection is called? Is it not easier when your QB can predict the rush and slide the pocket accordingly. Is it not easier to block when the QB audibles to a play better equipped against the defense?
Nah, man. If the QB has to slide because of your block, that's a pass block loss in the stats. You're too results focused to understand that these are completely independent of the QB making them look any better than they are.
On one hand, I agree with this; it makes a lot of sense. On the other hand, this is exactly why I hate Miami's offense. With no blocking, Tua is forced to get rid of the ball almost immediately. So, if Tua has to throw the ball right away, that means that unless you have the Flash as a WR, it's going to be a short pass. Too many short passes equal a dink-and-dunk offense that moves slowly down the field. The more plays in the drive, the more likely it is that Jackson, Eichenberg, or Davis will be called for Holding or Illegal Man Downfield... it happens every game! Also, this is why Miami's offense can't score a lot of points, it takes them way too long to move the ball into the red zone. The only exceptions are when the defense gives them a short field. This team could never win a shoot-out because they can't score quick enough. Hopefully that will change if they finally fix the o-line.
They were 4th overall in pass blocking this year. I’m having trouble locating 2019 stats, I guess I was looking at 2018. For some reason I can find 2018 but not 2019 do you have them?
Fair enough. How about calling the protection pre snap?
They got a new Oline coach in 2019 as well.
That's generally the Center's job, no?
That’s a valid point - I was not aware of that and certainly could have been a big impact then.
Sometimes, but I don’t think any elite QB isn’t calling their protections themselves.
I dont... and while nexgen stats has been down for 2 days now, Im almost 100% that Winston takes alot more time to get rid of the ball than Brady does, which could also be a factor. But pocket time reported by PFR was 2.5 for Winston and 2.4 for Brady the following year.
I found this from Football Outsiders, not sure how they compare to PFF though.
Im not going to go back and forth on this anymore... If you think the Fins OL this season, which has been ranked the worst overall ever since they started grading them is on the QB... Go for it...
Probably for the best, there’s no objective answer and I think we’ve both made our positions clear - were not changing either of our minds lol.Im not going to go back and forth on this anymore... If you think the Fins OL this season, which has been ranked the worst overall ever since they started grading them is on the QB... Go for it...
Personally, I would have never drafted Tua because he isn't bigger with great athletic talent. But, I'm okay with giving him another chance behind a competent o-line with better RBs and some more WRs to see what he can really do. Not that I'm a fan of Josh Allen, but Tua is no Allen. Tua is more accurate, but Allen is bigger and stronger, can break tackles, and can throw downfield while on the run. If Tua can't do these things because of his limited athletic ability, then he'll need to excel in other ways. For example, his quick, accurate, short passes don't help when you need to move the ball downfield quickly by getting chunk yardage. Behind a more effective o-line, I'd like to see him get better at moving in the pocket to avoid the rush while waiting for WRs to get open downfield. At least we already know that if no one is open he can take off running, although he won't be running over too many defenders!
