Would you call the Seahawks Elite? Afterall, they made it to the SB, and then a few years later were 1 score from reaching the NFC Championship, all within 5 years.
Seattle was an elite team in the mid 00s
Would you call the Seahawks Elite? Afterall, they made it to the SB, and then a few years later were 1 score from reaching the NFC Championship, all within 5 years.
We're still waiting for you to show us where a team coming off an 8-8 season is considered elite.
Exactly, zero division titles, zero AFC conference titles, zero Super Bowl appearances, zero top regular season records in the conference, 28-20 record, i guess makes you an elite team these days, so basically half the league is elite
I said the Jets were not an elite team in 2011 but when you combine the 3 seasons Rex has been here we have been an elite team overall in those 3 seasons.
Would you call the Seahawks Elite? Afterall, they made it to the SB, and then a few years later were 1 score from reaching the NFC Championship, all within 5 years.
he only skews the wording and stats to where they benefit his argument, you talk about 2011 8-8 season, he combines 3 years to make it look better, he is still resting on those 4 playoffs wins over a 3 year period as his main arugment for every homeristic statement he makes, yet all the spinning he does and it still equals out to 0 division titles, 0 AFC Conference titles, 0 Super Bowl appearances, 0 Super Bowl wins, and most recent which is all that matters, a collapsed choked .500 season, but thats elite
I said the Jets were not an elite team in 2011 but when you combine the 3 seasons Rex has been here we have been an elite team overall in those 3 seasons.
he only skews the wording and stats to where they benefit his argument, you talk about 2011 8-8 season, he combines 3 years to make it look better, he is still resting on those 4 playoffs wins over a 3 year period as his main arugment for every homeristic statement he makes, yet all the spinning he does and it still equals out to 0 division titles, 0 AFC Conference titles, 0 Super Bowl appearances, 0 Super Bowl wins, and most recent which is all that matters, a collapsed choked .500 season, but thats elite
Not winning a Super Bowl in the last 10 years, the time period we've talked about forever, makes your team not-elite.
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Elite over the last three years including last year when they weren't elite? What the ****?
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Seattle isn't elite b/c they didn't win the Super Bowl.
:sidelol: Elite team over 3 seasons. This guy!
does anyone make more excuses than Vaark?
The bottom line over a 3 year period:
-FIRST in playoff wins(tied leaguewide, FIRST by themselves in AFC)
-ONLY team to play in 2 conf title games
-ONLY team to win multiple playoff games in at least 2 postseasons
Over the course of a decade I'd agree w/ you, I think you at least need to reach a SB over the course of a decade to be considered elite(along w/ a bunch of other playoff success) but in a 3-5 year window or so you can be elite w/o a SB app or win.
Seattle was an elite team in the mid 90s, in the playoffs every year and raching the SB once.
I ralize all dolphin fans want to pretend it's 1973 and don Shula is at his peak but why would I discuss mangini and Herm as it relates to rex's Jets?
The bottom line from Sept 13, 2009 - Jan 1, 2011 139 weeks; Jan 10, 2010 - Jan 23, 2011
54 weeks of meat, and some of that questionable, within a 139 week **** sandwich.
The bottom line is the Jets have been one of the best teams in the league under Rex.
I think Junc does have a point...with what I'm seeing from other Fin Fans the argument would suggest that Dan Marino's team was never elite since his appearance in the SuperBowl in the Mid 80's (just making inferences off others argument for constituting elite status). We would have to denounce the Fins as being an elitle team during that era in order to denounce the Jets few scant years of AFC championship appearances.
Just trying to be fair...though I really wouldn't want to admit it. That being said I think they were
so 8-8 last year and 9-7 makes the jets elite? LMAO.