So are you all outta Brady juice? no more trying to rip threw my comments or do you just have no come back from my last post?:wink:
Do you really want me to? Remember that you asked.
as for me all i can say is that Bledsoe was inherited by Belecheat, not by choice.
He did inherit him but why after the 2000 season did the Pats sign Drew Bledsoe to a record contract in March of 2001 if they knew Brady was ready to step in?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/07/sports/main276973.shtml
was brady ready in 2001??NOOOOOOOOOO....Brady came in because he had 2, and had more success earlier.
obviously he was ready in 2001 as he led them to a SB but b/c they gave Drew the long term deal months earlier Brady wasn't in the plans to be a starter. he wowed them in camp and he was forced into the lineup a little earlier than they would have wanted but Belichick's job was in jeopardy and Brady was going to be starting soon whether Drew got hurt or not.
Belecheat knew wat he had in Brady because he molded a skinny smart kid outta college into what he wanted.
Yep, that's why in March of '01 they gave Bledsoe a record deal, the Pats obviously loved to give away free money and weren't worried at all about the cap
And you say brady can come into any system and be successful? How but a system that is more run and gun, you think he can still be successful?? when did brady become mike vick/vince young.
OK, you got me. He's not a Young/Vick type but those aren't classic QB systems, those guys makwe things up on the fly. You think thoe plays are drawn up by the coaches?
Coaches usually arm an arsenal of plays and players around the QB that highlights there strenghts and strenghtens his weaknesses, thats what creating a system is all about.
So the Pats drafted a QB in the 6th rd then gave their current QB a long term, record deal all w/ the idea to build a system around the 6th rd QB?
IMHO Brady is a great QB, best ever absolutly NO! The best QB in the NFL right now is Peyton Manning I believe with Brady second.
Brady is far and away better than Manning and has been for most of his career. if we are talking fantasy #s then yes peyton is better(although Brady passed him in that area as well last year) but Brady is the better QB b/c he always makes plays to win and he's not intimidated by playing in January- he thrives on it. It's why the coaches who were polled recently overwhelming chose Brady over manning to build a team around.
Of 29 HC's who responded 22 of them chose Brady and 6 Manning. Why is that?
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-8-58/NFL-coaches-prefer-Brady-over-Manning.html
Brady would not have the success he has now if he was playing in the late 80's early 90's, with the rules and having two teams in the same division Bills and Dolphins (Kelly and Marino) slinging it out all the time which takes time off the board.
He'd have as much success as he's having now b/c he's better than kelly and may end up being better than Marino and his Pats teams are better than the Dolphins and Bills of the 80s and 90s. Brady can win playing any style, whether it's a slug it out low scoring game or a high scoring shootout.
New rules some made for him a.k.a. the tuck rule, no real constant competition in our division. I'm not even going to get into the asterisk.
What constant competition was there 154-20 years ago? The Bills were good every year bu the Jets, Colts and Pats stuink regularly and Miami was ok. It's just like now except Miami and Buf have stunk and the Jets have been ok makming the postseason every other year.
Brady will make the list of best all time QB but there are many of them..true franchise QB's that help their team win. Unitas, Marino, Elway, Montana, Favre, Kelly, Griese, Namath, etc. etc. The only difference is that many on that list played against each other in their prime, which was electrifying to watch.
Of couirse there are many great QBs but only a handful I think belong in the best ever discussion- Marino, Montana, Graham, Unitas and now Brady.
So if your a QB and youve taken a team to the superbowl that puts you above other QB's just by default. For 1 a QB doesnt take the team to the SB, a TEAM does that together. And 2, if what you say is correct then we need to talk about Big Ben cause he WON a superbowl! He is now an immortal for doing so, he belongs up there with montana, and the rest of the bunch cause of that SB victory
Who said it puts you up there by default? it doesn't but it can seperate great players. When you see guys like Montaan and Brady play so well in postseason vs. say a Steve Young or Peyton Manning who are/were choke artists you can easily put Montana and Brady ahead of them. It's not Championships, it's elevating a team. Marino never won a SB but he elevated mediocre teams to heights they wouldn't have reached w/o him which is why I put him near the top. A guy like Young inherited a dynasty and only won one SB and that was thanks to Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones parting ways.
It's like in baseball w/ ARod vs. Nomar vs. Jeter. Arod & nomar put up the better fantasy #s but I'll take Jeter over them any day b/c he shows up when it matters. I play fantasy football but I do not judge players based on fantasy stats.