WestCoastPhins said:
Ok lets look at this posts facts. One Im gonna be a $%^$# and point out that chuck norris never coached but is a damn good martial artist. But im sure he could come in and win a superbowl cause hes chuck norris.
Oops, my bad.
Ok and my next point. how many of those succesfull coaches were sucessful with their first team when they were young. Shula with the colts wasnt too good. Chuck noll was good with the niners was fired before that.
I will now quote ESPN, its better that the jets get the right guy when he is not ready, than not get him when he is. Who knows how good mangini will be, he doesnt have lots of experience and probaby will be good if he is like other coaches of the same line. But if NY is impatient which it is, mangini will be fired before he gets good. So once again NY will be too impatient to give the right man a chance.
Shula's regular season record in Baltimore
1963: 8-6
1964: 12-2
1965: 10-3-1
1966: 9-5
1967: 11-1-2
1968: 13-1
1969: 8-5-1
73.5% winning percentage in the regular season with no losing seasons and you're saying that's not good?
Chuck Noll was only ever HC at the Steelers. He was appointed in 1969 and had the steelers in the AFC championship game in 1972.
Paul Brown won 7 out of 10 titles contested in his first 10 years as HC.
George Halas had to wait until 1394 for the NFL to introduce a title game. He won it in 1934. In the 1920s the Staleys/Bears had 9 winning seasons and one losing season.
Hank Stram - most wins as a coach in the AFL's 10 years of pre-merger existence. 2 superbowls for 1 win, and won the league in 1962.
Joe Gibbs - appointed HC in 1981. First superbowl win 1982.
It took Tom Landry 6 years from expansion to get a team to a .500+ record. His cowboys then stayed above .500 until 1986. Which makes him the only coach from the list I posted who did not have immediate success on their teams.
Let's have a look at some other HC, first appointed while they were in their 20s and 20s: Curly Lambeau (of the "titletown" packers) ; John Madden (owner of the highest win %), Jeff Fisher, John Gruden and Al Davis (looking at his work as coach of the raiders from 1960 to 1969 he did a pretty good job, the less said about what he's done after 1980 the better)
I'm not saying Magnini is a lock to have a HoF career, but history shows a 30ish year old HC being appointed HC for the first time is more likely to have a HoF career than a 50ish year old retread.