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The Book On Ryan Tannehill (parts 1 And 2) - Comprehensive Scouting Report
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A lifetime of watching the NFL gives me a pretty good idea. Who are you to say what am I or am not to assess?
The book on Ryan Tannehill is:
We drafted a QB who had red flags in college. He was a one year starter, and had poor scoring for the volume, borderline completion percentage, and wuestionable decision making, throwing a little too many picks for the volume. He also was not a winner per se, having 7-6 record in his last season.
However he landed at a really good team, with good staff, unlike some better college prospects over the years, like Mark Sanchez for example who landed at absolute garbage franchise.
Philbin was looking for a high volume passer who he could train, so he had to be if training age as well, because Philbin ran high volume passing offense. And Tannehill was that QB having thrown for unusually high 530 attempts in college. He could carry the passing load.
In addition he landed with people who cared. He landed with his former college head coach Mike Sherman as his OC who took care to introduce him to NFL.
The Dolphins also lucked out that Tannehill was a hard worker and a quick learner which is important for the success.
A newly drafted franchise QB will get four years, the rookie deal, to prove he is worthy of the second contract, that he can lead the team to playoffs and win, that he is that phenom, and the team can extend him to make more SB runs.
Ryan Tannehill made significant improvements under Philbin each year in his first three years, to the point that he was one of the better performers in the league in 2014.
In just his second season he was on the brink of leading the team to the playoffs. But came just short of that goal and benchmark in late December games.
In his third and best season, he once again lead the team to the brink of playoffs only to come up short again in December.
After Tannehill’s second year, the head coach who drafted him and trained him, had serious concerns about Ryan’s success potential, about his “greatness.” Philbin wanted to draft Derek Carr that offseason, another high volume passer to fit the offense.
Instead, the organization acquired a low passer but a winning QB from NDSU, Brock Jensen who was obviously not a fit.
Stadium renovations were going on and the brass did not want to have quarterback controversy during the unveiling of the new venue. Philbin was the political enemy after 2014 season for wanting to switch QBs.
After a poor start to 2015 season Philbin was fired. The team kept the QB but fired the HC who got and trained the QB. We did this once before.
Ryan Tannehill did not perform as well in 2015 as he did in 2014, he suffered a pull back in production, which is not unusual for similar QBs.
Blake Bortles and Derek Carr experienced similar pull backs and fired head coach, after a three year steady improvement.
Ryan Tannehill received an extension 2015. The extension was team-friendly because he did not accomplish what he set out to accomplish and what the expectations were for the rookie deal, which was to show that he is the phenom. But he showed significant improvements, committment, and hard work. The extension was just good enough to get the team through the stadium renovations and onto the next phase.
Under the new head coach in 2016, Ryan Tannehill started the season slow, again. And then, game 13 he suffered a season ending injury. During that season Ryan led the team to 8-5 record. His passing load was significantly reduced compared to 2014 season, and the team relied more on the running game than it did in previous years. That season, the Dolphins had one of the best rushing attacks in the league, and the lead running back was a pro bowl selection.
The Dolphins were encouraged by this new dynamic and were looking forward to having Tannehill back for the 2017 season. However, he suffered season-ending knee reinjury in preseason.
During the 2018 offseason, the team restructured Ryan Tannehill’s contract to create cap space for roster additions.
The book on Ryan Tannehill was written in 2015. A head coach was fired, and Ryan was not a phenom.
We lucked out that Stephen Ross hired a coach who can draft and train quarterbacks and that Ryan worked hard and became a decent starter. We did not luck out in finding a phenom.
We drafted a QB who had red flags in college. He was a one year starter, and had poor scoring for the volume, borderline completion percentage, and wuestionable decision making, throwing a little too many picks for the volume. He also was not a winner per se, having 7-6 record in his last season.
However he landed at a really good team, with good staff, unlike some better college prospects over the years, like Mark Sanchez for example who landed at absolute garbage franchise.
Philbin was looking for a high volume passer who he could train, so he had to be if training age as well, because Philbin ran high volume passing offense. And Tannehill was that QB having thrown for unusually high 530 attempts in college. He could carry the passing load.
In addition he landed with people who cared. He landed with his former college head coach Mike Sherman as his OC who took care to introduce him to NFL.
The Dolphins also lucked out that Tannehill was a hard worker and a quick learner which is important for the success.
A newly drafted franchise QB will get four years, the rookie deal, to prove he is worthy of the second contract, that he can lead the team to playoffs and win, that he is that phenom, and the team can extend him to make more SB runs.
Ryan Tannehill made significant improvements under Philbin each year in his first three years, to the point that he was one of the better performers in the league in 2014.
In just his second season he was on the brink of leading the team to the playoffs. But came just short of that goal and benchmark in late December games.
In his third and best season, he once again lead the team to the brink of playoffs only to come up short again in December.
After Tannehill’s second year, the head coach who drafted him and trained him, had serious concerns about Ryan’s success potential, about his “greatness.” Philbin wanted to draft Derek Carr that offseason, another high volume passer to fit the offense.
Instead, the organization acquired a low passer but a winning QB from NDSU, Brock Jensen who was obviously not a fit.
Stadium renovations were going on and the brass did not want to have quarterback controversy during the unveiling of the new venue. Philbin was the political enemy after 2014 season for wanting to switch QBs.
After a poor start to 2015 season Philbin was fired. The team kept the QB but fired the HC who got and trained the QB. We did this once before.
Ryan Tannehill did not perform as well in 2015 as he did in 2014, he suffered a pull back in production, which is not unusual for similar QBs.
Blake Bortles and Derek Carr experienced similar pull backs and fired head coach, after a three year steady improvement.
Ryan Tannehill received an extension 2015. The extension was team-friendly because he did not accomplish what he set out to accomplish and what the expectations were for the rookie deal, which was to show that he is the phenom. But he showed significant improvements, committment, and hard work. The extension was just good enough to get the team through the stadium renovations and onto the next phase.
Under the new head coach in 2016, Ryan Tannehill started the season slow, again. And then, game 13 he suffered a season ending injury. During that season Ryan led the team to 8-5 record. His passing load was significantly reduced compared to 2014 season, and the team relied more on the running game than it did in previous years. That season, the Dolphins had one of the best rushing attacks in the league, and the lead running back was a pro bowl selection.
The Dolphins were encouraged by this new dynamic and were looking forward to having Tannehill back for the 2017 season. However, he suffered season-ending knee reinjury in preseason.
During the 2018 offseason, the team restructured Ryan Tannehill’s contract to create cap space for roster additions.
The book on Ryan Tannehill was written in 2015. A head coach was fired, and Ryan was not a phenom.
We lucked out that Stephen Ross hired a coach who can draft and train quarterbacks and that Ryan worked hard and became a decent starter. We did not luck out in finding a phenom.
Wow that is full of inaccuracies, contradictions, and conjecture. It’s not as bad as your stats in a vacuum thread you posted in the draft forum, but it’s a close second.
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So it ended before his best year in 2016?
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The book on Tranny is simple the first half of the book is boring the second half is yet to be written.
Wow, just wow Newbie.
With an established vacuum-visioned agenda like this, something tells me that you didn't just roll into FH out of a cornfield.
Out of curiosity which forum was it that finally declared "no mas" ???
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2016 was boring?
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Some games were fun, like Ajayi's 3 200 yard games, kikos interception for TD to beat the chargers and Drakes return for a TD to beat the jets... I guess it wasn't all boring.
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Of course I meant RT wise...
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He had some moments in 2016, like the chargers and rams games but overall his "career" is a snooze festival.
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Always dancing around the answer to avoid crediting RT, smh
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The problem here is you assume I think Tannehill deserves credit. Clearly I gave credit to who I thougjt won those 5 games during "the stretch".
I don't engage in personal attacks. It's pointless. We all want glory for this team.
The thing is this, We have a QB who has two 6-win seasons, and three 8-win seasons, and one absent season, in six seasons of his NFL carer. All franchise QBs get 4 years to prove their worth. He generally is what he was in 2015. Tho book was written. He may have more success or less success, but that's the baseline.
Some are okay with that, some are not. I'm not okay with that. We have stability at QB which is good, we are not #32 as the ESPN poll suggests. The stability however is just not convincing going forward based on past performances.
In addition, our division rivals are retooling this year in this QB rich draft, for the future. I've been fan for three decades and we've missed on Qbs in the past. That's what the first round is for, to find the phenom.
For those who like Gase, they should want him to get his QB, to have his 4-year window to make magic happen, and not be stuck with someone else's QB like Jimmy was, and be fired because the team went 7-9 and that QB did not make it happen.
Not an attack. I made an observation and asked a question having seen this kind of neatly packaged/topped off with a bow type agenda pre-set too many times in the past 11 years to think that someone did not outwear their welcome elsewhere because of a Rainmanish obsession with Tannehill, Gase, Ross or whatever. . Otherwise you're deflecting.
Yes, I am deflecting personal attacks. I am talking about issues with the team. You are talking about me. I will continue to deflect that, and I'll leave it at that.