No. As for the rest, I'm betting none of them would give up a second for him, especially this year.
what if...we traded B.Hartline?
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No. As for the rest, I'm betting none of them would give up a second for him, especially this year.
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While we're discussing hypothetical deals that will never happen, how about we dish Matt Moore for a 2nd, Daniel Thomas for a 3rd, and call it a day.
Who's the number 2 on those teams?
New Orleans? Name another WR other then Colston?
Sanu is ok, but Hartline would be opposite of Green
New England....their entire WR core is suspect...
Buffalo....Stevie Johnson and who? Graham? Woods? Hartline has outplayed both...
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He is a very good #2 receiver on almost any team in the league.
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A hypothetical on the internet? I'm shocked!?
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Thanks to Ireland's shenanigans I guarantee the Browns are out as trading partners with us, especially trading picks for WRs. And yes, I understand we both have new GMs but the sting of the Davone Bess hoodwink is most definitely still fresh with the owner.
New Orleans: Kenny Stills. Far greater upside and in his rookie year scored half the TDs Hartline has in his entire career. While ten yards and ground can be useful for 1st downs, I prefer the TDs. No way they would sit Stills for Hartline.
Cincinnati: He'd have trouble taking both Sanu and TD machine Jones's spot. Again, Sanu has far more upside and is entering the coveted 3rd year. They're not sitting him for Hartline.
NE: He wouldn't start over Amendola (until he is injured again, of course) or Edelman. You could MAYBE argue that he would break even with Edelman, based on stats alone, but that would discount edelmans experience with the system and Tom Brady, and discount the fact that they are going to be trying to get those youngsters more involved. Hartline would get lost in the shuffle.
Buffalo: Again, they wouldn't start a guy with zero upside over two very promising young WRs, especially Woods. Well, they are the Bills, so maybe they would.
I like Hartline, but he is what he is: a decent #2 on a mediocre (at best) offense. Hardly irreplaceable or non-upgradeable.
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It never fails to amaze me that for every good player we have we have at least one (what can we get for him in a trade) thread. Good teams don't give away their good players.
I still can't believe we made that trade. I mean, Bess was one of the best slot receivers in the game according to many on here and trading him would be ludicrous. He was totally irreplaceable.
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With Bess' level of WPA you can only imagine what their record would have been without him.
Hey now, just because Shouwrong kept beating that drum doesn't mean we all felt the same way!
To add to this; it's also not just about how 'good' he is, it's about how good he is relative to his pay, and Brian Hartline is not worth 22.5 million dollars over the next three years. Had he been making, say, 12 million dollars over the next three years instead of 22 million dollars, then he would be worth retaining and we wouldn't be having this discussion. Without even going into the cheap-labor that comes along with rookie contracts (which btw, I would take Robert Woods over Hartline in a second), I'm going to list some of the contracts receivers got in free-agency this year, and you tell me who you'd rather have:
Brian Hartline - 3 years, 22.5 million.
DeSean Jackson - 3 years, 24 million.
James Jones - 3 years, 11.3 million.
Julian Edelman - 4 years, 17 million.
Emmanuel Sanders - 3 years, 15 million.
Steve Smith - 3 years, 11 million.
Hakeem Nicks - 1 year, 3.98 million.
Riley Cooper - 5 years, 25 million.
Every single one of these contracts is vastly more reasonable than what Hartline is making. Hartline at 7.5 million or DeSean Jackson at 8.0? The opportunity cost of over-paying Hartline is that we don't have the cap room to go after some of these other guys. Hartline and Wallace's agent took Ireland to school.
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Hartline isn't worth a second or third rounder to ANY team. There isn't a team in the league that would trade a second or third round pick for this guy. That's why some of the responses here have been so confounding. Trading Hartline for a second rounder would be the best Highway Robbery of a trade this franchise has pulled off in a long time, and people here are turning it down.
Let me phrase it this way; take off your aqua colored classes for a second, and imagine we had the same exact roster we do now except that we didn't already have Brian Hartline, and he was on the Detroit Lions or something. Would you trade a second round pick to get him, even if he WASN'T being grossly overpaid? No one in their right mind would, and yet we have people here who are vehemently shooting it down.
Hartline most likely won't even be on the roster next year, because he's not worth his 7.5 million dollar cap figure.
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