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A few things to get straight

Don't you know the Texans were slobbering over the possibility of getting Tua and draft picks to boot for Shawn.
I'm not so sure Miami was ever so interested but if they were shame on them
 
EPBro said:
I just had a thought.

Of course I love Waddle.

But imagine had we stood pat at 12 and drafted Parsons and then took Phillips.

We may have never given up a TD all season LMAO.
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I dunno. Chances are high Flores would need to see Parsons versatility and play him as Safety or DT
 
royalshank said:
1. Tua - all he does is win games. Particularly good in “must get it” situations.

2. Jason Taylor was right about Phillips from day 1. Kid is going to be a stud.

3. We are a better team when Parker plays.

4. Palardy has been crushing his punts for several weeks now. I’ve gone from hater to lover.

5. Jason Sanders must relinquish his nickname, “the colonel” until he stops missing FGs

6. Waddle-a-hee-ho!!! Sing it with me.

7. Anymore talk of X’s declining skills or “we should trade him for a 2nd rounder”? Please see psychiatrist behind door number 2.

8. Big “Mack” Hollins is fun to root for.

9. Xavien Howard has 26 picks since 2016 - most in league. I don’t care how many games he’s missed. Yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Best CB in franchise history. Easily. End of story. Thank you.

10. Why do we have an NHL ice hockey guy coaching our o-line? Guy LaFleur would be better than this guy. Just imagine what our O could do if defenders actually got blocked a little. Help, please.

5 in a row. We have something to play for.

PS - duck Deshaun Watson and Ross and whoever else in the FO that went for this fool. We have a great in the making QB. Thank you and good night. 💤.
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Nicely said.
 
Fin-Loco said:
Commit to him? We're paying him and we're starting him. What kind of commitment do you want that we aren't giving?
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Perhaps not allowing all the distractions around the team that they were going to trade for a sex pervert might have been nice.

He has earned his position by his play, not just because they are paying him. There are a lot of players they are playing and many of them are only playing because of the money and the lack of quality backups to replace them. Many Of them certainly don’t deserve to be starting players in the NFL, especially several players on the OL and in the RB room.
 
Ray R said:
"Eichenberg has had some struggles, but the team hasn't lost since he was moved to LT."

I don't get to see many games. It's really hard to get a meaningful sense of how well these guys are playing with all the hyperbole going on here. Hunt is getting some pretty good ratings. The way the "Lemmings" wail, you'd think the entire line was full of lousy players. Clearly it isn't, so the "Lemmings" must be wrong - again - LOL

Your point is irrefutable. Something, or several somethings have happened that account for improvement of our team.

1) The offensive line is clearly improving.
2) The defense is not only good, but it is becoming consistently good and getting even better.
3) Our special teams have a few strong points.
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The other something that has happened is an extremely pillow soft run in the schedule. All bottom dwellers except Baltimore who we caught on a Thursday at home after they were in an OT game the week before. Other than that, Panthers and Giants have no QB so can't score giving our bad offense opportunity after opportunity. Jets/Texans - enough said there.

Don't get me wrong I'm pleased we should soon be 7-7 after mopping up the Jets again in 2 weeks but trying to be somewhat objective here. We still struggle to score points in a big way. If the schedule had been Tampa, Green Bay, Dallas, Chiefs, along those lines rather than who we played, I'm not sure we are all signing this narrative of how improved we are.

I think it is clear that Tua has a nice skill set we can build around and it will be interesting to see where that might lead if we ever get a quality line and RB not to mention more (healthy) weapons for Tua. That said penciling him in as the "franchise" QB for decades as some are doing now is a bit premature. IMO health will be the determining factor. What's he missed, 5 or 5.5 games this year? Can't have your starter miss a 1/3rd of the season and hope to make the playoffs. Ultimately that, playoff wins and superbowls, are really the only "stats" that matter. We've only made it twice in the last 20 years and are a very long shot to do so again this year after the terrible start that was largely because Tua missed so many games.

The good news is we have a good amount of money and a pick in every round I believe coming up this off-season. We "should" be able to build an offense around Tua that can better protect him and be more of a dual threat and more explosive but time will tell. At the end of the day though I'm not getting too giddy until we are in the position Buffalo/NE are in now, several games over 500 coming down the stretch and not worried about "making" the playoffs but what you're going to do when you get there. Unless we get lucky this year, win out and somehow get in, here's to hoping next year is the year we turn the corner and all he does is win, Tua, stays healthy and leads us there next year.
 
EPBro said:
I just had a thought.

Of course I love Waddle.

But imagine had we stood pat at 12 and drafted Parsons and then took Phillips.

We may have never given up a TD all season LMAO.
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If they had drafted Parsons at 12, they would not have drafted Phillips. There biggest need going into the draft was at the WR position and if the pick had been Parsons at 12, they would have gone WR with their second first round pick because they would have already drafted their edge rusher in Parsons.
 
Good_Dylan said:
Don't you know the Texans were slobbering over the possibility of getting Tua and draft picks to boot for Shawn.
I'm not so sure Miami was ever so interested but if they were shame on them
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Didn't really think about that from Houston's perspective but they certainly missed out on the best package they will likely get for Deshaun. Knowing how the Eagles operate and their plethora of picks, they can still make Houston a grand offer. Watson has to get traded to Philly at some point, although I am not sure he's going to want to go there. What will his options even be? Cleveland does something crazy?
 
GatorFin73 said:
The other something that has happened is an extremely pillow soft run in the schedule. All bottom dwellers except Baltimore who we caught on a Thursday at home after they were in an OT game the week before. Other than that, Panthers and Giants have no QB so can't score giving our bad offense opportunity after opportunity. Jets/Texans - enough said there.

Don't get me wrong I'm pleased we should soon be 7-7 after mopping up the Jets again in 2 weeks but trying to be somewhat objective here. We still struggle to score points in a big way. If the schedule had been Tampa, Green Bay, Dallas, Chiefs, along those lines rather than who we played, I'm not sure we are all signing this narrative of how improved we are.

I think it is clear that Tua has a nice skill set we can build around and it will be interesting to see where that might lead if we ever get a quality line and RB not to mention more (healthy) weapons for Tua. That said penciling him in as the "franchise" QB for decades as some are doing now is a bit premature. IMO health will be the determining factor. What's he missed, 5 or 5.5 games this year? Can't have your starter miss a 1/3rd of the season and hope to make the playoffs. Ultimately that, playoff wins and superbowls, are really the only "stats" that matter. We've only made it twice in the last 20 years and are a very long shot to do so again this year after the terrible start that was largely because Tua missed so many games.

The good news is we have a good amount of money and a pick in every round I believe coming up this off-season. We "should" be able to build an offense around Tua that can better protect him and be more of a dual threat and more explosive but time will tell. At the end of the day though I'm not getting too giddy until we are in the position Buffalo/NE are in now, several games over 500 coming down the stretch and not worried about "making" the playoffs but what you're going to do when you get there. Unless we get lucky this year, win out and somehow get in, here's to hoping next year is the year we turn the corner and all he does is win, Tua, stays healthy and leads us there next year.
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I agree the Dolphins are feasting on the softer spot in their schedule. Yet considering they were 1-7 and lost to the Jaguars and Falcons earlier in the season. The fact they are now winning the games they are suppose to win is definitely a huge positive for this team.

They really won’t be a legitimate playoff caliber team until they upgrade the OL and RB’s and hopefully they will be able to upgrade both those units in free agency and in the 2022 draft. Also another top WR not made out of glass will also benefit this team.
 
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The Ghost said:
Didn't really think about that from Houston's perspective but they certainly missed out on the best package they will likely get for Deshaun. Knowing how the Eagles operate and their plethora of picks, they can still make Houston a grand offer. Watson has to get traded to Philly at some point, although I am not sure he's going to want to go there. What will his options even be? Cleveland does something crazy?
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Carolina?
 
1972forever said:
I agree the Dolphins are feasting on the softer spot in their schedule. Yet considering they were 1-7 and lost to the Jaguars and Falcons earlier in the season. The fact they are now winning the games they are suppose to win is definitely a huge positive for this team.

They really won’t be a legitimate playoff caliber team until they upgrade the OL and RB’s and hopefully they will be able to upgrade both those units in free agency and in the 2022 draft. Also another top WR not made out of glass with also benefit this team.
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Totally agree. Real shame we dropped those games to Jax and Atlanta, really would be in the playoff hunt now if we had won those. 8-5 right now w/ the Jets looming after a bye week would have been awfully nice.
 
circumstances said:
Tua needs to run early in every game (safe as possible, of course), just to put the fear in the defense.

Am I the only one that thinks this?

I honestly believe Tua thinks he can make every play with his arm, so tucking and running is like waaaay down his list of options (obviously that's a scramble and not a designed run play).

And I think Charles Harris won that game for the Lions today, but I'm not positive.
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I'd rather Tua didn't channel his inner Tebow EVER. He's fine being somewhere between R Wilson & D Brees

I could be wrong but it was Goff who won that game.
 
utahphinsfan said:
I'd rather Tua didn't channel his inner Tebow EVER. He's fine being somewhere between R Wilson & D Brees

I could be wrong but it was Goff who won that game.
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I just want him to be aware of using his legs to pick up a first a smidge more.

I heard a partial snippet that Harris had a strip sack (or something) late that gave the ball back to Goff and the O.
 
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