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Build Around Tannehill Or Make A Move At Quarterback?

BigNastyFish said:
This is Ryan's year to assert his position as a difference maker @QB -- if he fails at that then not no one can consider him the answer moving forward.

Regardless, we need to make a significant investment at the position via the draft for developmental and/or replacement reasons.
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THill fails we will be in great position to draft a QB next year. I'm taking a difference maker this year at another position.
 
Why draft a QB before having pieces in place to supplement him while he grows into his role? This is such bad logic. Build a TEAM first, you are much more likely to have sustained success with multiple working parts rather than just one working part.
 
We HAVE to give Tannehill this season. Last season was supposed to be the big one but the re injury just crushed this team. Now is the year we've been waiting for, a healthy RT with an oline, plenty of weapons and another season of familiarity in Gase's offense. Still, if one of the QBs you covet is sitting at #11, grab him in an instant. Otherwise, go BPA and snag a QB later in the draft.
 
Why draft a QB before having pieces in place?

Because you will never have them all in place. We have been trying that strategy for a couple decades and it hasn't worked.

Philadelphia didn't have all the pieces in place when they drafted Carson Wentz in 16. In 2015 they were a 7-9 team with a middle of the road offense and bottom of the league defense very similar to our 17 season. They had a QB in place (Sam Bradford) who was serviceable and has very similar career stats as our current QB. 2 years later they are Champs because they took a chance to improve the most important position.

None of the 1st round players we have taken recently have made much of a difference to team success. Is a defensive end that get 2 sacks in his first season a better choice than a QB who can change your franchise? What about a left tackle that leads an offensive line that is near the bottom of league? Or maybe a #1 Receiver that plays more like a 2 or a 3 when he isn't injured. Or a right tackle that isn't going to get extended. The holes you talk about filling are still there. And we missed a change to upgrade the most important position.
 
Fins1971 said:
Why draft a QB before having pieces in place?

Because you will never have them all in place. We have been trying that strategy for a couple decades and it hasn't worked.

Philadelphia didn't have all the pieces in place when they drafted Carson Wentz in 16. In 2015 they were a 7-9 team with a middle of the road offense and bottom of the league defense very similar to our 17 season. They had a QB in place (Sam Bradford) who was serviceable and has very similar career stats as our current QB. 2 years later they are Champs because they took a chance to improve the most important position.

None of the 1st round players we have taken recently have made much of a difference to team success. Is a defensive end that get 2 sacks in his first season a better choice than a QB who can change your franchise? What about a left tackle that leads an offensive line that is near the bottom of league? Or maybe a #1 Receiver that plays more like a 2 or a 3 when he isn't injured. Or a right tackle that isn't going to get extended. The holes you talk about filling are still there. And we missed a change to upgrade the most important position.
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It is baffling how many on here can't see this big picture.

Dudes on here really thinking a solid starting strongside linebacker or a free safety is going to change the Dolphins fortune LMAO.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
And the wrong QB would set this franchise back for years.
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We have a QB who has set us back going on 10 years. So do the Lions.
Teams who whiffed on QBs like Skins, Jets, Bills are not worse off. It means we whiffed too.

And, watching the highlight throws, you can come to conclusion that Tannehill, Bradford are better than Montana, Young, Brady, Manning. That’s doing it wrong.
 
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Fins1971 said:
Why draft a QB before having pieces in place?

Because you will never have them all in place. We have been trying that strategy for a couple decades and it hasn't worked.

Philadelphia didn't have all the pieces in place when they drafted Carson Wentz in 16. In 2015 they were a 7-9 team with a middle of the road offense and bottom of the league defense very similar to our 17 season. They had a QB in place (Sam Bradford) who was serviceable and has very similar career stats as our current QB. 2 years later they are Champs because they took a chance to improve the most important position.

None of the 1st round players we have taken recently have made much of a difference to team success. Is a defensive end that get 2 sacks in his first season a better choice than a QB who can change your franchise? What about a left tackle that leads an offensive line that is near the bottom of league? Or maybe a #1 Receiver that plays more like a 2 or a 3 when he isn't injured. Or a right tackle that isn't going to get extended. The holes you talk about filling are still there. And we missed a change to upgrade the most important position.
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The flip side to that argument is the wasted careers of players like David Carr. Without having a decent team, no young QB is going to come in and turn things around. They will be on a never ending cycle of acquiring and ruining QBs.

Cleveland has also used your strategy.....
 
EvilDylan said:
Yeah Andrew luck is really reaping the benefits of that solid team built around him.
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And Russell Wilson suffered from the crap that surrounded him for the first 4 - 5 years. Nothing like being weighed down by a top defense and running game.
 
JTech194 said:
Why would a QB have to sit 2-3 years? If that QB comes in and is better than everything we have on our roster then he should play. No QB on our roster has earned to right not to have competition. The RIGHT QB would be a game changer...

There's no other position we can pick at 11 or 42 that would be "Game Changers" One LB or DB or OL or CB, or WR or any other position for that matter will not be a GAME CHANGER on a team with so many holes.
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Well...it's all speculation...and we think Tannehill will come back from injury...and we know he knows the system and we know he can be effective running the offense...we have addressed the o-line and believe the running game has improved....
So with that bringing in a rookie thinking he is going to take over and put Tannehill on the bench is a reach IMO. He would ,at least, sit the bench for a year (barring injury) and our #1 pick would not be a contributor this season.

But it's all speculation regardless and who knows....maybe there is a guy that can come in and shake it all up....I wouldn't bet my job on it though

And...it is possible another position can be a game changer with a team filled with holes....one guy making a difference beside another that can't do it all may be all the difference in the world....we will see soon
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
The flip side to that argument is the wasted careers of players like David Carr. Without having a decent team, no young QB is going to come in and turn things around. They will be on a never ending cycle of acquiring and ruining QBs.

Cleveland has also used your strategy.....
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And the flip side of your argument is the World Champion Philadelphia Eagles. They were us in 2015. I guess you missed the last season in the NFL because you were too busy defending Ryan Tannehill every chance you got.
 
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