Most Important Quality Tannehill Needs To Show These Last Games...

[Jerrysanders]

I just don’t know what he could do different there short of throw it blind. Pre snap Hyde is on the opposite hash that’s tanny pre snap read the safety alignment once he ids the coverage post snap Hyde just flows to the boot action and then comes across yes he’s following the qbs eyes late there but damn what else can tanny do?

It’s not like he was late releasing that or that he carried the action too far.

I think it’s either ball needs to be more on a line slight loft rope or ball needs to be deeper with more loft to try and take it by the coming across safety.

I did say it probably wasn't going to matter anyway.

 

[hoops]

U can't look at the target that long on a play fake and he threw a half second too late.

Yeah I don’t agree with that unless you want him to throw it without setting his feet. And I don’t given the route concept

 

[Spiff]

I completely agree with this. If Ryan Tannehill remains the same, then his NFL life will pass him by. Nobody will care about him when he's gone, and we'll use him as an example of what not to do and how not to think. That's why I used the same term -- flawed thinking -- in another thread today.

I fully expect it to play out that way. I have never been a fan of Tannehill based on his resume and the sucker qualities attached. Everything screamed middle of the pack. Failed possessions don't seem to bother him and losses don't seem to surprise him.

To extricate himself, Tannehill needs a George Foreman-type transformation. I don't think that is overstating matters. Completely remaking himself, although the variables and order are not the same. Tannehill needs to imagine he's early George Foreman, throwing shots from everywhere and fully expecting the outcome to be decided early in his favor, with awe and fear attached.

Impose is the correct term. I use that word not long ago. Throw the darn ball. Your accuracy is your strength. As I've mentioned, every time Tannehill drops back and throws quickly and decisively over the middle I expect good things to happen. When he hesitates on that throw and doesn't pull the trigger I expect bad things to happen. Both versions played out early against the Bills. The first drive was full of those quick darts. Then Buffalo adjusted. No kidding. They are going to adjust. Throw it anyway. The defenders don't catch your errant ones. Instead, by the third drive Tannehill was concerned that the windows were tighter so now he's thinking and panicking. The sacks show up near the goal line.

Absolutely we need multiple times the number of deep balls. I distinctly remember when I was on the Las Vegas radio Stardust Line one night in the early '90s -- probably 1991 -- and chief Nevada oddsmaker Michael "Roxy" Roxborough was annoyed that the Canes kept throwing deep late in the game against San Diego State despite a huge lead at home. They finally connected for a touchdown and the game ended up in the middle, which is the worst outcome for the sportsbooks.

Roxy was whining for seemingly several minutes: "Miami just keeps throwing deep until they get it right." I laughed and said it was smart strategy. "No kidding it is smart strategy," Roxy said in anger. "I have no idea why more teams don't do that. They certainly don't do it when we (the sportsbooks) need them to score."

The entire live audience broke out in laughter at that one. I love the notion that sportsbooks don't care who wins.

Bottom line, the steady building block approach has no chance. Too many posters here don't recognize that. We are not an offensive line away. We are not a field goal per game away. We are a full touchdown per game removed from being competitive with the upper echelon teams...basically 28 points instead of 21. And you aren't getting that extra touchdown per game via Ryan Tannehill running with the football. He has some skill there but not enough. If you get him thinking along those lines then he's not going to impose himself with those Foreman haymaker shots.

Tannehill is too limited to expect every aspect to fall into place. He's not Russell Wilson or Josh Allen with his feet. Throw the fear away and wing the darn ball down the field.

Not saying I necessarily agree with everything but I just love reading your posts.

 

[Jerrysanders]

Yeah I don’t agree with that unless you want him to throw it without setting his feet. And I don’t given the route concept

Play was designed to beat that safety, but either way we both agree the throw was the main reason it didn't work. Why the play call if he's not healthy ?

 

[hoops]

Play was designed to beat that safety, but either way we both agree the throw was the main reason it didn't work. Why the play call if he's not healthy ?

He must be hitting them in game prep during the week in practice. I guess.

But these straight vertical double moves require a legit arm. Not an 80 percenter or whatever.

 

[Spiff]

These are the types of throws I would like to see more of from the Tannehill. The Bills check to tampa 2 but Tannehill doesn't let that dictate where he wants to go, more aggressive throws anticipating coverage gaps, that's the elite type of stuff that separate Qbs reading from a manual and the ones who create their own manual.

Anybody else cringed when watching that play live and seeing Hughes diving at Tannehill’s feet? It’s beyond me how this is not a penalty.

 

[Tiko377]

Pocket Presence,Clutch,Risking it all.

 

[Jerrysanders]

Anybody else cringed when watching that play live and seeing Hughes diving at Tannehill’s feet? It’s beyond me how this is not a penalty.

Tunsil threw him into it.

DVP got some of the cleanest hands I've ever seen.

 

[BobDole]

People get dumber reading this stuff. What could he not have done there? Thrown a bad pick. Break down completed.

 

[royalshank]

Yep. When he does throw it up and take shots he gets plays like Carroo making a play or Stills. Sometime it will be picked like the first throw to Stills down the boundary on a double move, but keep taking smart shots.

And those deep ball INTs don’t take you out of a game like they used to back in the day. Today they are basically a punt. Agree it’s better odds than 3 and out from own 28 all the time.

 

[royalshank]

Yep. When he does throw it up and take shots he gets plays like Carroo making a play or Stills. Sometime it will be picked like the first throw to Stills down the boundary on a double move, but keep taking smart shots.

Speaking of the play Carroo made, how is it that he didn’t get any targets last week? Seems Butler jumped ahead of him on the depth chart. No other receiver we have can Moss someone like that. That’s not a fluke - he’s a big guy that’s showing he can make contested catches. He must be the worst practice player or fall asleep in meetings. I don’t get it when a street FA with an unimpressive career walks in and beats you out after you make a play like that.

 

[artdnj]

Speaking of the play Carroo made, how is it that he didn’t get any targets last week? Seems Butler jumped ahead of him on the depth chart. No other receiver we have can Moss someone like that. That’s not a fluke - he’s a big guy that’s showing he can make contested catches. He must be the worst practice player or fall asleep in meetings. I don’t get it when a street FA with an unimpressive career walks in and beats you out after you make a play like that.

All Gase, i can't figure him out

 

[BSQ]

The deep shots are quite limited by the severe lack of quality pass blocking. If Larsen is on the field I'm not blaming Gase regarding deep shots because this guys either whiffs or gets shoved back into the QB's face. There is only time to throw the ball away if you're lucky.

 

[Fins1971]

Deep shots are always possible if you are willing to take the chance and make a quick decision. Poor blocking isn't an excuse. You need to at least throw it up deep 5 times a game with current rules. Especially if its 3rd and long.

Blocking didn't effect this play because Ryan made a quick decision and heaved it up.



There are bunch more like this were the ball is out in 2 seconds deep. Just have to commit.

 

[Fins1971]

Looks like Ryan is 7 of 25 on the year for passes thrown over 21 yards. 6 of them went for TD's. Only throwing a bit more than 3 per game. Need to try more with the TD results that we are getting from those plays. 4 interception on the deep passes but none really hurt us. Patriots scored after deep interception but they were already ahead 24-0 at the time. Buffalo took the deep interception and drove for lead with TD. But Ryan got it back the next series. The other 2 essentially acted as punts.