Let’s give Rosen 7 years and blame the o-line while we pass on QB after QB in the draft. Trade for more picks and take more Charles Harris types. **** yeah!
Entire career?The amount of faith on this forum in Rosen who hasn't done anything well in his entire career in the NFL thus far is mind boggling.
Have the standards really sunk that low or is it just massive delusion?
I keep seeing around the forum that even if Rosen plays well, you still draft QB with #1 pick just to make sure you have franchise QB. Have 2 bites at the apple they say.
I think this theory is wrong, if Rosen shows to Flores & staff that he can be a franchise QB for the team, YOU GO ALL IN ON ROSEN! Trade your first round draft pick for multiple 1sts and 2nds and build around Rosen through all those high picks. If Tua separates himself from his peers then you can really get big haul for team desperate for a QB (Bucs, Bengals, Titans, Raiders). Also when you draft QB with top 5 pick (most likely 1st pick) then there's no QB competition. You damn well know that QB going to start week 1 as he's going to make or break Chris Grier tenure as GM so you damn well know he'll want him starting ASAP!
If Rosen isn't good then of course go ahead and draft your QB and have Rosen as backup. I think you Dolphins fans will agree that the best situation is for Rosen to show he can be a franchise QB so you can trade #1 for massive haul. Like Imagine if Bucs land top 10 pick, Winston remains a bust and GM is in the hot seat and gets desperate and offers an RG3 haul for Tua who has potential to receive similar hype. Dolphins are already loaded with picks but then you add RG3 haul to your war chest. That right there can make the Dolphins become a DYNASTY!
Im enjoying this rebuild process as an outsider and also a fan of Rosen so def excited to see him against Cowboys and I'm telling everyone I know that I believe Rosen will be the Dolphins franchise QB.
Dolphins fans get excited! People maybe laughing at you now but that laughter will turn to envy when they see Flores, Grier & Rosen holding up the SB trophy!
Agree, but we have the option of which rd1 pick to use, and I can see scenarios where at least a couple, if not several, options make sense.
It will probably be hard to make that definitive claim after this season, and he’s not as good of a prospect as Tua. BOTH is the answer. Let them compete. We have to get this right, so let Rosen compete with the number one drafted qB next year by us and see how it goes.
But the hypothetical question here assumes that the QB we have plays very well. If he proves to be the answer (he probably won’t), go with it. As for trading, I’m talking about trading out of a pick and acquiring more picks.Using one pick on a QB will not hamstring our future potential as a team.
Losing draft picks to trade up for any position will hamstring us because it limits our opportunity for new players.
Using one existing 1st round pick on a QB is part of the normal team building process that we should expect to go through!
I saw them both DURING those Pro-Bowl years. Anybody who saw Bert Jones between 1975 and 1978 KNOWS he was the best QB in the league, with the possible exception of Roger Staubach.Didn't say they were horrible. They did a lot with what they had to work with. A couple good years, does not a "franchise" QB make.
As far as knowing my history, though I was young at the time, I'm old enough to remember seeing them both play man. You?????
Edit: perhaps we just have a different definition of franchise QB.
I think you misunderstand what the OP is saying. We want Josh Rosen to prove that he is the Franchise QB THIS year before we make a decision on drafting the next QB. So in other words, there will be NO QB COMPETITION in 2020. Either Rosen is our Franchise QB or he will be a 3 yr backup QB to Tua Tagovailoa.Let’s give Rosen 7 years and blame the o-line while we pass on QB after QB in the draft. Trade for more picks and take more Charles Harris types. **** yeah!
Agreed.
If the Front Office feels a 2nd round draft pick for a QB will best fill our needs, then that's what we should do.
Ah gotcha. Ok I’m down w that. Let the kid play the rest of the games.I saw them both DURING those Pro-Bowl years. Anybody who saw Bert Jones between 1975 and 1978 KNOWS he was the best QB in the league, with the possible exception of Roger Staubach.
I think you misunderstand what the OP is saying. We want Josh Rosen to prove that he is the Franchise QB THIS year before we make a decision on drafting the next QB. So in other words, there will be NO QB COMPETITION in 2020. Either Rosen is our Franchise QB or he will be a 3 yr backup QB to Tua Tagovailoa.
Initially tho they didn't know, just like Rosen now. and they drafted a clear cut top QB and let them compete. Brees wasnt all-world initially. It was only when Brees wrecked his shoulder did they (incorrectly) assume he would probably amount to less than Rivers and that Brees then got a flame in him to prove the doubters wrong plus Payton had a lot to do with his rise to greatness. And WE didn't assess him well either. He came to Miami looking for a job and we let him walk to New Orleans.I don't understand how anyone can point to the Chargers situation as a good one to replicate. They had one of the best QBs of the decade on their roster, failed to identify him as such, and proceeded to pass up on the opportunity to surround him with a hall of fame receiver or tight end. To top it off they let him walk for nothing.
To me that's got to be one of the worst case scenarios. A top draft pick is worth so much and when you don't get good value from it the repercussions are being felt for the next decade.
The question is, how well can Rosen play with the team he has?The ONLY way you pass on Tua is if Rosen play's lights out for the majority of the games he plays in. If he plays well a couple a games here and there or plays well a couple of qtrs here and there I believe you still draft Tua.
It would be foolish to go all in on Rosen based on a couple of good games, also having 2 potentially good QB's is never a bad thing in the NFL. We've had QB's who have flashed and showed promise and we went all in for 7 years, let us not repeat history.